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> How do we, as a society, start accepting rational self-criticism again? A good starting point would be to stop using the word "trigger" when someone reacts i

> How do we, as a society, start accepting rational self-criticism again? A good starting point would be to stop using the word "trigger" when someone reacts in a way you don't like to something you say. Personally I interpret it as a way to diminish the other side position by suggesting they don't have control over their emotions regarding some subjects. Not a good start.

drglitch 5y ago
Is there a more appropriate word to describe this? Honest question as a non-native English speaker. Seems like this is a commonly used term/usage: https://www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/us/amp/english/triggered https://www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/us/amp...
- adamjb 5y ago
  "Offended" would be my suggestion. "Triggered" is only really used in this sense as part of bad faith culture war discourse, mocking the idea of trigger warnings.
  - bkirkby 5y ago
    I've heard advocates of trigger warnings share their lived experience by talking about what "triggered" them, using that word specifically.
    - wffurr 5y ago
      There's a big difference between describing one's own experience and labeling others.
    - dogorman 5y ago
      The word is used in the context of PTSD. e.g. "hearing fireworks triggered flashbacks from the war" More generally, a "trigger warning" is a "content advisory warning" by another name.
  - Shorel 5y ago
    I don't think they mock the idea of triggers. They leverage and weaponize the concept, which is arguably worse.
thatguy0900 5y ago
? but trigger was started and used by that side themselves.
- afarrell 5y ago
  I’d advise reading the book “112 Gripes about the French” and then applying that same empathy to the people you dislike in our modern era.
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    Where did you get I disliked anybody? Parent used "sides" before I did, and it's seems absurd to say the right started trigger to mock the left
    - afarrell 5y ago
      > Parent used “sides” before I did My philosophy is that I don’t care who started it. I care how I respond to try to improve things. (Though I myself have a lot to learn as well.)
- gnzg 5y ago
  my understanding is that the word trigger is used in psychology to describe a wide range of traumatic responses. e.g whenever a war veteran suffering from ptsd hears firework it may trigger a strong traumatic response. //victims of abuse can get "triggered" by the presence or even mention of their abuser etc it applies to a wide range of traumas and responses some of which might be more or less extreme, so it does include some small things: if you ever get a minor burn, the idea of touching a potentially hot surface might make you somewhat uncomfortable - you could call that a triggering experience even though it's not nearly as intense as the other examples. Triggering experiences are generally considered to reinforce trauma and generate unncessary distress and should therefore be avoided And so we use trigger warning before movies etc to warn users of potentially upsetting/triggering content such as war, torture, sexual violence and various forms of abuse, it's really not that big of a deal

drglitch 5y ago

Is there a more appropriate word to describe this? Honest question as a non-native English speaker. Seems like this is a commonly used term/usage: https://www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/us/amp/english/triggered https://www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/us/amp...

adamjb 5y ago
"Offended" would be my suggestion. "Triggered" is only really used in this sense as part of bad faith culture war discourse, mocking the idea of trigger warnings.
- bkirkby 5y ago
  I've heard advocates of trigger warnings share their lived experience by talking about what "triggered" them, using that word specifically.
  - wffurr 5y ago
    There's a big difference between describing one's own experience and labeling others.
  - dogorman 5y ago
    The word is used in the context of PTSD. e.g. "hearing fireworks triggered flashbacks from the war" More generally, a "trigger warning" is a "content advisory warning" by another name.
- Shorel 5y ago
  I don't think they mock the idea of triggers. They leverage and weaponize the concept, which is arguably worse.

thatguy0900 5y ago

? but trigger was started and used by that side themselves.

afarrell 5y ago
I’d advise reading the book “112 Gripes about the French” and then applying that same empathy to the people you dislike in our modern era.
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  Where did you get I disliked anybody? Parent used "sides" before I did, and it's seems absurd to say the right started trigger to mock the left
  - afarrell 5y ago
    > Parent used “sides” before I did My philosophy is that I don’t care who started it. I care how I respond to try to improve things. (Though I myself have a lot to learn as well.)
gnzg 5y ago
my understanding is that the word trigger is used in psychology to describe a wide range of traumatic responses. e.g whenever a war veteran suffering from ptsd hears firework it may trigger a strong traumatic response. //victims of abuse can get "triggered" by the presence or even mention of their abuser etc it applies to a wide range of traumas and responses some of which might be more or less extreme, so it does include some small things: if you ever get a minor burn, the idea of touching a potentially hot surface might make you somewhat uncomfortable - you could call that a triggering experience even though it's not nearly as intense as the other examples. Triggering experiences are generally considered to reinforce trauma and generate unncessary distress and should therefore be avoided And so we use trigger warning before movies etc to warn users of potentially upsetting/triggering content such as war, torture, sexual violence and various forms of abuse, it's really not that big of a deal