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> the only reason anyone is talking about misinformation right now is because the entire world watched in horror at the events of January 6th, a direct attempt

> the only reason anyone is talking about misinformation right now is because the entire world watched in horror at the events of January 6th, a direct attempt to “seize control over free societies” Regardless of if the riot on Jan 6 was an attempt to seize the government (it wasn’t), this line of reasoning doesn’t track at all since the concept of “misinformation” as a public enemy has been brought up ad naseum since at least 2016.

LimaBearz 5y ago
There’s a bit of nuance there though to isn’t there? Let’s be honest, “misinformation” between 2016-2020 just meant “things written about me I don’t like”, it only came from one person/group.
- l33t2328 5y ago
  > it only came from one person/group I disagree. While dubbing things “misinformation” was extremely prevalent coming from democrats and those on the left, things like Trump and his supporters dubbing certain reports “fake news” show everyone has concerns.
  - 6f8986c3 5y ago
    The term “fake news“ itself came from the left.
    - amaranth 5y ago
      That was about actual fake news, not news with a spin I don't like. https://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-macedonia-fake-news/ https://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-macedonia-fake-news/
      - l33t2328 5y ago
        Right, misinformation. Reasonable people can disagree about where the line between “actual fake news” and “news with a spin I don’t like” is.
- ibbibby 5y ago
  Where have you been? Hall monitors at CNN and other outletd like Oliver Darcy have been shrieking about "misinformation," and successfully lobbying to get people censored on that basis, constantly for the last four years. Recall that the "fake news" scare (and "post-truth era" etc) was actually started by the media before Trump appropriated it against them. And in most cases it was used against people for expressing skeptic towards favored conspiracy theories about the 2016 election.

LimaBearz 5y ago

There’s a bit of nuance there though to isn’t there? Let’s be honest, “misinformation” between 2016-2020 just meant “things written about me I don’t like”, it only came from one person/group.

l33t2328 5y ago
> it only came from one person/group I disagree. While dubbing things “misinformation” was extremely prevalent coming from democrats and those on the left, things like Trump and his supporters dubbing certain reports “fake news” show everyone has concerns.
- 6f8986c3 5y ago
  The term “fake news“ itself came from the left.
  - amaranth 5y ago
    That was about actual fake news, not news with a spin I don't like. https://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-macedonia-fake-news/ https://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-macedonia-fake-news/
    - l33t2328 5y ago
      Right, misinformation. Reasonable people can disagree about where the line between “actual fake news” and “news with a spin I don’t like” is.
ibbibby 5y ago
Where have you been? Hall monitors at CNN and other outletd like Oliver Darcy have been shrieking about "misinformation," and successfully lobbying to get people censored on that basis, constantly for the last four years. Recall that the "fake news" scare (and "post-truth era" etc) was actually started by the media before Trump appropriated it against them. And in most cases it was used against people for expressing skeptic towards favored conspiracy theories about the 2016 election.