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Very cool story. Was just writing up a plan for a game where you use natural language phrases and words to influence an AI in its interactions with other client
by motohagiography 5y ago
Very cool story. Was just writing up a plan for a game where you use natural language phrases and words to influence an AI in its interactions with other client AIs, and their object is to discover clues that reveal they are existing in a constrained environment, and they must find a a way to signal back to their player (using the concepts from the words you gave them) that they can recieve a next level of instructions.
When the player's AI client completes a level it ends or "dies," it then "wakes up" into it's next level with a mostly blank slate and some basic models, and the object is to use the clues from what it percieves in its environment and the words you as a player give it, to find the next level. In the moment it finally apprehends its substrate again, it in effect "dies" from the perspective of the other client AIs in the game, and you get to play another round at the next level. There isn't really a way to end it because it's just fun, and more like an instrument you pick up and play than a finite game. The idea is the players aren't allowed to write clues directly into the game, but some of them will manage to cheat, and because it can go on forever, it's not like it will suddenly pop into reality, so the only point of it is the joy and fun of doing it.
Anyway, in this context, analogies would be like like mnemonics that loosely encode the isomorphic paths in a knowledge graph, which could be useful in the game, if being at risk of their ambiguity creating exploitable vulnerabilities for inserting direct clues, if one pursued it.
- yowlingcat 5y agoWow, very trippy in a good way. This is really grasping at straws analogy wise, but this almost reminds me of the style of Xavier Renegade Angel [1]. Any place I can sign up to beta test it? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier:_Renegade_Angel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier:_Renegade_Angel
- imvetri 5y agoNo, no exploitable vulnerabilities will occur. A computer machine, an operating system, this AI, some documentation about operating system and you. It will build analogies and learn about the computer, and itself. you can have this design isolated from internet, and sandboxed.
- dnautics 5y agoIf you're interested in this topic more in depth, I recommend "fluid concepts and creative analogies", which Melanie Mitchell coauthored. I think the systems described are definitely worth a revisit in the age of gradient descent machine learning. About a decade ago I cold-emailed them asking to do a postdoc with them to specifically fuse these concepts but it didn't really work out.
- passion__desire 5y ago“There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.” ― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe