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> is completely frivolous and unnecessary How so? Would people not stop polluting voluntarily if it's so frivolous? Instead, there are protests like these: ht

> is completely frivolous and unnecessary How so? Would people not stop polluting voluntarily if it's so frivolous? Instead, there are protests like these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_protests

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tda 5y ago
Buying plastic crap from amazon, commuting to office work every day, SUV's, eating too much meat, flying halfway accross the globe for a business meeting or vacation. It all still happens (though Corona proved how much if that was not needed) , and all is frivolous. And all will stop when the oil runs out, or would be greatly reduced if the oil price is set at say 10x the current level
- booleandilemma 5y ago
  I was just thinking the other day about how much flying for business meetings is done for the point of having somewhere to fly to. It’s purely a lifestyle thing dressed up as some kind of necessity. A high-ranking coworker of mine is flying out to NYC for a meeting next week. This is a guy who’s been working from home since covid started. Why all of a sudden does he need to fly anywhere? Why can’t another zoom call work? If and when we have full-fledged businesses on the moon corporate execs are going find a reason to fly there too, just to tell people that’s what they’re doing.
- forgotmypw17 5y ago
  I agree, it's easy to be complicit, and I think it counts. I personally have stopped all of the activity you mention, and I used to do quite a bit of it.
aaron_m04 5y ago
That's what happens when policymakers don't consider the effect on people's livelihoods. The moral of the story: if you add a carbon tax, don't let it push large numbers of the population downward on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Nobody who loses their job due to climate change policy will give a shit about the planet, unless/until they get another job.
908B64B197 5y ago
How was this tax supposed to help the people it taxed curb their emissions? Or was it just going into some pension fund for underproductive bureaucrat?
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tda 5y ago

Buying plastic crap from amazon, commuting to office work every day, SUV's, eating too much meat, flying halfway accross the globe for a business meeting or vacation. It all still happens (though Corona proved how much if that was not needed) , and all is frivolous. And all will stop when the oil runs out, or would be greatly reduced if the oil price is set at say 10x the current level

booleandilemma 5y ago
I was just thinking the other day about how much flying for business meetings is done for the point of having somewhere to fly to. It’s purely a lifestyle thing dressed up as some kind of necessity. A high-ranking coworker of mine is flying out to NYC for a meeting next week. This is a guy who’s been working from home since covid started. Why all of a sudden does he need to fly anywhere? Why can’t another zoom call work? If and when we have full-fledged businesses on the moon corporate execs are going find a reason to fly there too, just to tell people that’s what they’re doing.
forgotmypw17 5y ago
I agree, it's easy to be complicit, and I think it counts. I personally have stopped all of the activity you mention, and I used to do quite a bit of it.

aaron_m04 5y ago

That's what happens when policymakers don't consider the effect on people's livelihoods. The moral of the story: if you add a carbon tax, don't let it push large numbers of the population downward on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Nobody who loses their job due to climate change policy will give a shit about the planet, unless/until they get another job.

908B64B197 5y ago

How was this tax supposed to help the people it taxed curb their emissions? Or was it just going into some pension fund for underproductive bureaucrat?

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