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Does this apply to google workspace (paying)customers too? If so google is actually scanning what is supposed to be private information.

by ixacto 5y ago

stingraycharles 5y ago
I looked closely but I cannot find anything that says that paying customers are excluded. So I would assume it is included. It makes sense, though, to enforce one single policy: otherwise, just becoming a paying customer would be a loophole to circumvent phishing etc policies. I guess the crux here is when, exactly, they start scanning the content. Is that perhaps the moment the content is first shared? It doesn’t seem to be documented.
read_if_gay_ 5y ago
> If so google is actually scanning what is supposed to be private information. Am I just too cynical or are you naive for thinking they aren't datamining absolutely anything they can get their hands on?
- DaniloDias 5y ago
  Logs are only useful if they are monitored. This individual seems to look at events that happen that don’t align with their prejudices and assumes that the signal is an aberration. Nihilists get burned. You have to hold people accountable for the consequences of their action rather than their intention.
- kevincox 5y ago
  Their policies for Workspace accounts has tight restrictions on what they are allowed to use your data for. So they shouldn't be "datamining absolutely anything that they can get their hands on".
  - ixacto 5y ago
    The referenced FAQ doesn’t say that google workspace paid accounts are exempt from this policy…
    - kevincox 5y ago
      There is a difference between "datamining" and scanning. they could very well be scanning files that were shared by workspace accounts. They just wouldn't be allowed to use the verdict for anything other than flagging the content as a ToS violation.
m-p-3 5y ago
If it's not end-to-end encrypted, it's not private from Google. Google can and will scan anything you feed it.
- ixacto 5y ago
  I’m tempted to make a bunch of honeypot accounts just to see how Orwellian and/or gameable their system is. What will trigger it? Fan pages to Trump/Qanon? Antivaxxer propaganda? The German federal police paper on how to clandestinely manufacture heroin? Or maybe just a 20mb text file with the “卐” character?!
  - freedomben 5y ago
    If you do they will figure out your real identity and will terminate your real account without warning. I highly suggest you move everything out before that.
    - ixacto 5y ago
      That is...true. Everything google account backed is now wiped from my iPhone. Just got to download the google drive stuff next.
  - akshayt 5y ago
    Did it work
grumblenum 5y ago
Maybe they will compensate you with discounts on some of their upcoming offerings like Google Re-Education Camp or Google Kulak Liquidator. Kids, are your parents tainted with dangerous Bourgeois sentiments? Get a free $10 Amazon Gift Card for every tip you make on Google Informant.

Does this apply to google workspace (paying)customers too? If so google is actually scanning what is supposed to be private information.

by ixacto 5y ago

Does this apply to google workspace (paying)customers too? If so google is actually scanning what is supposed to be private information.

stingraycharles 5y ago

I looked closely but I cannot find anything that says that paying customers are excluded. So I would assume it is included. It makes sense, though, to enforce one single policy: otherwise, just becoming a paying customer would be a loophole to circumvent phishing etc policies. I guess the crux here is when, exactly, they start scanning the content. Is that perhaps the moment the content is first shared? It doesn’t seem to be documented.

read_if_gay_ 5y ago

> If so google is actually scanning what is supposed to be private information. Am I just too cynical or are you naive for thinking they aren't datamining absolutely anything they can get their hands on?

DaniloDias 5y ago
Logs are only useful if they are monitored. This individual seems to look at events that happen that don’t align with their prejudices and assumes that the signal is an aberration. Nihilists get burned. You have to hold people accountable for the consequences of their action rather than their intention.
kevincox 5y ago
Their policies for Workspace accounts has tight restrictions on what they are allowed to use your data for. So they shouldn't be "datamining absolutely anything that they can get their hands on".
- ixacto 5y ago
  The referenced FAQ doesn’t say that google workspace paid accounts are exempt from this policy…
  - kevincox 5y ago
    There is a difference between "datamining" and scanning. they could very well be scanning files that were shared by workspace accounts. They just wouldn't be allowed to use the verdict for anything other than flagging the content as a ToS violation.

m-p-3 5y ago

If it's not end-to-end encrypted, it's not private from Google. Google can and will scan anything you feed it.

ixacto 5y ago
I’m tempted to make a bunch of honeypot accounts just to see how Orwellian and/or gameable their system is. What will trigger it? Fan pages to Trump/Qanon? Antivaxxer propaganda? The German federal police paper on how to clandestinely manufacture heroin? Or maybe just a 20mb text file with the “卐” character?!
- freedomben 5y ago
  If you do they will figure out your real identity and will terminate your real account without warning. I highly suggest you move everything out before that.
  - ixacto 5y ago
    That is...true. Everything google account backed is now wiped from my iPhone. Just got to download the google drive stuff next.
- akshayt 5y ago
  Did it work

grumblenum 5y ago

Maybe they will compensate you with discounts on some of their upcoming offerings like Google Re-Education Camp or Google Kulak Liquidator. Kids, are your parents tainted with dangerous Bourgeois sentiments? Get a free $10 Amazon Gift Card for every tip you make on Google Informant.