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”Maximum security prison” - which is rather the regular security jail where he had been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his

”Maximum security prison” - which is rather the regular security jail where he had been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his corridor, was out of order. Plus the guards didn’t really seem to pay much attention.

tablespoon 5y ago
> ”Maximum security prison” - which is rather the regular security jail IIRC, he was in a SHU, which is closer to the former than the latter. > where he had been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his corridor, was out of order. Plus the guards didn’t really seem to pay much attention. That's definitely conspiracy theory fodder, but little more than that.
- void_mint 5y ago
  > That's definitely conspiracy theory fodder, but little more than that. A common trend in this thread seems to be labeling speculation as "conspiracy theory", seemingly to get out of having to justify one form of speculation is more valid than another. Why are statements-of-fact "conspiracy theory fodder"?
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    > Why are statements-of-fact "conspiracy theory fodder"? Conspiracy theory fodder are facts that offer no evidence of a conspiracy, but that the conspiracy-prone can't help but use as springboards for baseless speculation about one.
    - void_mint 5y ago
      Ah but isn't that the interesting part. A person that dismisses an idea as a "conspiracy theory" is inclined to dismiss evidence too, no?
mrguyorama 5y ago
>been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his corridor, was out of order. Plus the guards didn’t really seem to pay much attention. The problem is that those are way more common in american prisons than you would hope. Meaning we can't really know whether epstein was executed or just allowed to die by an apathetic and malevolent prison system. That doesn't excuse the absolute lack of effort by Barr and Garland to try to find anything out.

tablespoon 5y ago

> ”Maximum security prison” - which is rather the regular security jail IIRC, he was in a SHU, which is closer to the former than the latter. > where he had been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his corridor, was out of order. Plus the guards didn’t really seem to pay much attention. That's definitely conspiracy theory fodder, but little more than that.

void_mint 5y ago
> That's definitely conspiracy theory fodder, but little more than that. A common trend in this thread seems to be labeling speculation as "conspiracy theory", seemingly to get out of having to justify one form of speculation is more valid than another. Why are statements-of-fact "conspiracy theory fodder"?
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > Why are statements-of-fact "conspiracy theory fodder"? Conspiracy theory fodder are facts that offer no evidence of a conspiracy, but that the conspiracy-prone can't help but use as springboards for baseless speculation about one.
  - void_mint 5y ago
    Ah but isn't that the interesting part. A person that dismisses an idea as a "conspiracy theory" is inclined to dismiss evidence too, no?

mrguyorama 5y ago

>been taken off suicide watch, and whose camera system, which was covering his corridor, was out of order. Plus the guards didn’t really seem to pay much attention. The problem is that those are way more common in american prisons than you would hope. Meaning we can't really know whether epstein was executed or just allowed to die by an apathetic and malevolent prison system. That doesn't excuse the absolute lack of effort by Barr and Garland to try to find anything out.