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It's worth noting that childcare is an especially huge issue right now... because there aren't enough workers. And raising wages is a Catch-22 because it direct

It's worth noting that childcare is an especially huge issue right now... because there aren't enough workers. And raising wages is a Catch-22 because it directly affects childcare costs.

monkeybutton 5y ago
Which is why countries like Canada are looking at $10/day subsidized childcare. It frees up lower income people to work more and is paid for using the taxes on middle/upper income. Which effectively makes it a wealth transfer "for a good cause" so people will vote for it.
- jfengel 5y ago
  Which effectively makes it a wealth transfer "for a good cause" so people will vote for it. That made me chuckle. If it were the US, I think it would have to read, 'Which effectively makes it a wealth transfer "for a good cause" so people will vote against it.' Or at least, a large number would, and the checks and balances put a heavy thumb on the side of "no". So in fact a majority of people would likely vote for it, but it still would not happen.
  - monkeybutton 5y ago
    Sadly I can see the attack ads now. Paying for other people's child care? That's socialism! Except you're going to be paying for it either way. Now do you want to pay through taxes which are least proportional to your income, or do you want to pay via increased cost in everyday goods and services, which probably affects you more than someone wealthier? We're in the run up to an election now so lots of extravagant promises being made, we'll see what actually happens when the dust settles.
nine_zeros 5y ago
But raising wages is not the only solution. Reduce regulation and allow older people to get licenses to run simple daycares from homes. A lot of Asian countries already do this.
trashface 5y ago
Don't have kids myself, but...how can parents feel good about having the lowest paid workers watch over their kids? If I made $9 or even $15 an hour at a day care center, you can be sure I wouldn't give a fuck about the kids.

It's worth noting that childcare is an especially huge issue right now... because there aren't enough workers. And raising wages is a Catch-22 because it directly affects childcare costs.

monkeybutton 5y ago

Which is why countries like Canada are looking at $10/day subsidized childcare. It frees up lower income people to work more and is paid for using the taxes on middle/upper income. Which effectively makes it a wealth transfer "for a good cause" so people will vote for it.

jfengel 5y ago
Which effectively makes it a wealth transfer "for a good cause" so people will vote for it. That made me chuckle. If it were the US, I think it would have to read, 'Which effectively makes it a wealth transfer "for a good cause" so people will vote against it.' Or at least, a large number would, and the checks and balances put a heavy thumb on the side of "no". So in fact a majority of people would likely vote for it, but it still would not happen.
- monkeybutton 5y ago
  Sadly I can see the attack ads now. Paying for other people's child care? That's socialism! Except you're going to be paying for it either way. Now do you want to pay through taxes which are least proportional to your income, or do you want to pay via increased cost in everyday goods and services, which probably affects you more than someone wealthier? We're in the run up to an election now so lots of extravagant promises being made, we'll see what actually happens when the dust settles.

nine_zeros 5y ago

But raising wages is not the only solution. Reduce regulation and allow older people to get licenses to run simple daycares from homes. A lot of Asian countries already do this.

trashface 5y ago

Don't have kids myself, but...how can parents feel good about having the lowest paid workers watch over their kids? If I made $9 or even $15 an hour at a day care center, you can be sure I wouldn't give a fuck about the kids.