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Here's a crazy idea of dubious ethical value: The problem with Russian hackers is the law there doesn't give a damn, so they're untouchable. Why not ignore th
by eloff 5y ago
Here's a crazy idea of dubious ethical value:
The problem with Russian hackers is the law there doesn't give a damn, so they're untouchable.
Why not ignore the law then? Put a price on their heads and use the same Russian criminal elements to take them out. Do that a few times and the problem will magically vanish. Nobody will be willing to work for these gangs.
It also makes the Russian courts have to consider whether they'd rather handle this inside the law or deal with consequences of it happening outside the law.
- beermonster 5y ago> The problem with Russian hackers is the law there doesn't give a damn, so they're untouchable. Is it not the case that no Russian criminal offence has taken place? Not that I’m saying that’s great, but that might be the excuse needed to look the other way whilst carnage ensues ?
- runnerup 5y agoThis would normalize extraterritorial direct action on both sides. Yes, Russia assassinates people in the UK with nerve agents. But if the USA follows the suggestion you proposed above, Russia will respond with regular direct action on American soil to target people they're interested in. Plus the USA has enough control over global financial systems and extraditions from third party countries that the US government can make life difficult for individuals if they ever want to travel outside of Russia, spend/store money outside of Russia, or buy things directly from companies that are outside of Russia. USA can do these things without inviting potential assassinations within its borders.
- foolinaround 5y agoI am guessing the US does this as well, but is just not reported?
- nuclearnice1 5y agoGiven the lack of reporting, what information informs the guess?
- foolinaround 5y agoPast history of the US 3 letter agencies, and their enormous, often secret budgets.
- Applejinx 5y agoRussia responding with direct action on American soil will play very poorly. I'm not convinced that, politically, they can do any such thing. They depend very heavily on motivating genuine Americans to do their direct action for them.
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- teawrecks 5y agoOoo solutions that include a magic step are very attractive to me...
- staticassertion 5y agoOr we just get US companies to step up their security. US infra is a ridiculous soft target.
- Applejinx 5y agoIn a sense that's what this is. It's sort of going, Russian oligarchs are impossibly wealthy and can pay to do anything they like and run their government and are/are like the Russian mob? Fine. The United States as a country is also impossibly wealthy, Texas alone is worth more than the country of Russia GDP-wise. Therefore, go on with your oligarch selves and you can just compete with the State Department, bribe against bribe, payoff against payoff. Have fun. Seems clever and practical to me. If you're up against folks who can put a price on anything, outbid 'em and you're fighting with their weapons on their terms.
- seppin 5y ago> The problem with Russian hackers is the law there doesn't give a damn, so they're untouchable. Not if they get sick of Sochi and decide to holiday in Thailand one day.