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Yeah, that's the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger at this point. I hate thinking about memory pressure and having to manage applications to keep

Yeah, that's the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger at this point. I hate thinking about memory pressure and having to manage applications to keep it in check...

sp332 15y ago
With your swap file on SSD, is it really that noticeable?
- chopsueyar 15y ago
  Interesting point. Anybody?
  - blinkingled 15y ago
    I had a 2GB 11" Air that was swapping out around 350Mb with my workload and it was noticeable although not a deal breaker - think slight switching delays and rare mouse freezes for split second - obviously much better than if the swap was on 5400RPM rotating disk. I ended up returning it anyway - 2GB isn't nearly enough for anything other than just browsing.
    - tgood 15y ago
      The last part isn't true. I've got the bottom priced 11" and being an entrepreneur I use it heavily for design. My only issue is the memory. After CS5 and a couple other programs I was down to 10gb.I'm 80% in front of a big cinema display but even working on the go its great. Photoshop too. My usual is itunes, mail, 5-10 safari windows, Photoshop, Illustrator and no spinning wheel of death. My experience of Apple is nearly 10 years and came from a 15" MBP that died. If you're questioning it, go for it... You'll feel like James Bond when on-the-go.
      - blinkingled 15y ago
        Are you sure you do that all at once without slowing down on a MBA with 2GB RAM? I just tried my regular use case - Mail, Firefox, MS Word and Excel plus Adium and it was 350Mb into swap and switching apps wasn't all that instantaneous. What does your swap usage show (Activity Monitor - page outs with all that workload? However with 4GB it shouldn't be that much of an issue for this workload. So I might just bite the bullet given the Sandy Bridge and TB upgrades!
        chopsueyar 15y ago
        Especially $100 bucks more for an i7 chip.
        tgood 15y ago
        I have for the last 12 days, and this was after using an iMac from years back which processed everything excessively. Right now my swap usage is 640 MB. Worth mentioning, I am returning it tomorrow to get the latest offering. Probably in the same setup.
    - mattdk 15y ago
      >> 2GB isn't nearly enough for anything other than just browsing. This makes me sad.
- Bud 15y ago
  It will swap much faster than a MB Pro with no SSD. For me at least, this alleviates the RAM concerns. If you really really need 8GB RAM, you probably need a Pro or a desktop anyway.

Yeah, that's the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger at this point. I hate thinking about memory pressure and having to manage applications to keep it in check...

sp332 15y ago

With your swap file on SSD, is it really that noticeable?

chopsueyar 15y ago
Interesting point. Anybody?
- blinkingled 15y ago
  I had a 2GB 11" Air that was swapping out around 350Mb with my workload and it was noticeable although not a deal breaker - think slight switching delays and rare mouse freezes for split second - obviously much better than if the swap was on 5400RPM rotating disk. I ended up returning it anyway - 2GB isn't nearly enough for anything other than just browsing.
  - tgood 15y ago
    The last part isn't true. I've got the bottom priced 11" and being an entrepreneur I use it heavily for design. My only issue is the memory. After CS5 and a couple other programs I was down to 10gb.I'm 80% in front of a big cinema display but even working on the go its great. Photoshop too. My usual is itunes, mail, 5-10 safari windows, Photoshop, Illustrator and no spinning wheel of death. My experience of Apple is nearly 10 years and came from a 15" MBP that died. If you're questioning it, go for it... You'll feel like James Bond when on-the-go.
    - blinkingled 15y ago
      Are you sure you do that all at once without slowing down on a MBA with 2GB RAM? I just tried my regular use case - Mail, Firefox, MS Word and Excel plus Adium and it was 350Mb into swap and switching apps wasn't all that instantaneous. What does your swap usage show (Activity Monitor - page outs with all that workload? However with 4GB it shouldn't be that much of an issue for this workload. So I might just bite the bullet given the Sandy Bridge and TB upgrades!
      - chopsueyar 15y ago
        Especially $100 bucks more for an i7 chip.
      - tgood 15y ago
        I have for the last 12 days, and this was after using an iMac from years back which processed everything excessively. Right now my swap usage is 640 MB. Worth mentioning, I am returning it tomorrow to get the latest offering. Probably in the same setup.
  - mattdk 15y ago
    >> 2GB isn't nearly enough for anything other than just browsing. This makes me sad.
Bud 15y ago
It will swap much faster than a MB Pro with no SSD. For me at least, this alleviates the RAM concerns. If you really really need 8GB RAM, you probably need a Pro or a desktop anyway.