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I'm looking at a picture of Altenahr flooded: https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1415629704472760324 https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1415629704472760324 https://

I'm looking at a picture of Altenahr flooded: https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1415629704472760324 https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1415629704472760324 https://twitter.com/Zersorger/status/1415654344184188932 https://twitter.com/Zersorger/status/1415654344184188932 Isn't that a floodplain? We know what that name means, right? When did this plain last flood? Sadly, "unprecedented" floods should now not also be "unexpected".

peterbraden 5y ago
What a condescending comment. You realize how many millions of people live in flood plains, and how climate change means that existing mitigations are not sufficient anymore?
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  >You realize how many millions of people live in flood plain Yes? Building on flood plains has been a bad idea for a while now. (1) > how climate change means that existing mitigations are not sufficient anymore Is that not implied by what I already said: "Sadly, "unprecedented" floods should now not also be "unexpected"." 1) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51712267 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51712267 it actually is a floodplain, right? Calling it "condescending" to mention that many people are in that known bad situation, will not in itself make them safe, will it?
  - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
    I am very sorry if my comments came across of callous or dismissive of tragedy, that was not my intent. But, we also need to talk about known risks, and how they are getting worse, and how it was known that they would get worse. And failure to plan. A floodplain is one of these risks.
rasz 5y ago
Looking at Guardian and BBC coverage all flooded areas are either flood plains and old river beds where people diverted river to make a bend and build a small town in its place.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  It looks like Altenahr has been there for centuries (1) I apologise for the tone of my above comment, it might come across as dismissive. Not to ignore the tragedy, but it's not striking at an entirely random location. A floodplain is at risk. We also should talk about known risks. And how they are getting worse. And how it was known that they would get worse. And failure to plan for that. What's been safe for centuries might not be safe any more. 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altenahr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altenahr

peterbraden 5y ago

What a condescending comment. You realize how many millions of people live in flood plains, and how climate change means that existing mitigations are not sufficient anymore?

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
>You realize how many millions of people live in flood plain Yes? Building on flood plains has been a bad idea for a while now. (1) > how climate change means that existing mitigations are not sufficient anymore Is that not implied by what I already said: "Sadly, "unprecedented" floods should now not also be "unexpected"." 1) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51712267 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51712267 it actually is a floodplain, right? Calling it "condescending" to mention that many people are in that known bad situation, will not in itself make them safe, will it?
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  I am very sorry if my comments came across of callous or dismissive of tragedy, that was not my intent. But, we also need to talk about known risks, and how they are getting worse, and how it was known that they would get worse. And failure to plan. A floodplain is one of these risks.

rasz 5y ago

Looking at Guardian and BBC coverage all flooded areas are either flood plains and old river beds where people diverted river to make a bend and build a small town in its place.

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
It looks like Altenahr has been there for centuries (1) I apologise for the tone of my above comment, it might come across as dismissive. Not to ignore the tragedy, but it's not striking at an entirely random location. A floodplain is at risk. We also should talk about known risks. And how they are getting worse. And how it was known that they would get worse. And failure to plan for that. What's been safe for centuries might not be safe any more. 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altenahr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altenahr