> If we start taking collapse as inevitable, it will become a self fulfilling prophecy. This. This is the biggest issue I have with r/collapse and similar crow

> If we start taking collapse as inevitable, it will become a self fulfilling prophecy. This. This is the biggest issue I have with r/collapse and similar crowds. If collapse isn't inevitable, then they aren't helping, and they sure as all heck aren't able to prove that it is inevitable. This mindset reminds me of certain videos I've seen on YouTube where some people have been proposing just letting society collapse due to global warming and founding an anarchist society in the ashes. Spoiler alert: If everyone thought like this, society in the first world probably would continue, but you'd kill millions upon millions of people in the third world.