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I'm disappointed in the answer to the following questions: Can I tile two windows without 17 clicks and mouse movements? Fortunately for the creator of Cinch,

I'm disappointed in the answer to the following questions: Can I tile two windows without 17 clicks and mouse movements? Fortunately for the creator of Cinch, it seems the answer is no. Can I archive a gmail message? No?

cstuder 15y ago
About GMail archiving: Really not? (I haven't read trough this massive review yet.) At least on iOS it is possible to convince the delete button to archive. (By setting the trash folder to 'All mail', if I remember correctly.) I would imagine that Apple Mail should be at least as configurable as its iOS counterpart.
- ugh 15y ago
  iOS supports archiving perfectly fine. No need for any tricks. Lion kinda does. You can archive but doing that will actually create an “Archive” folder and moves the mail there. That’s not the expected behavior when using Gmail. (The expected behavior would be to move the mail to the “All Messages” folder, or, in Gmail lingo, to remove all labels from the message. iOS does that, Lion doesn’t.)
  - nirvdrum 15y ago
    Archiving is handled through IMAP delete by default. Check your GMail settings and go to the "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab. Most likely your setting for "When I mark a message in IMAP as deleted" is "Archive the message (default)."
    - ugh 15y ago
      But I want to be able to delete mails (anywhere). I don’t want to repurpose the delete button, no way.
      - kissickas 15y ago
        Move the mail to the trash folder. Sorry, not a 1-button solution, but it works.
- euroclydon 15y ago
  Yeah... And then you delete how?
  - cstuder 15y ago
    Umm, the point of GMail is to never delete anything anymore. I love being able to search through my years of old mail.
    - euroclydon 15y ago
      That was the point of gmail... five years ago. And then they added delete, because there are some message which never again need to see the light of day.
  - kristofferR 15y ago
    Move it to the folder Thrash
justinchen 15y ago
I use Divvy for Mac for arranging windows. I love it. http://mizage.com/divvy/#divvyMac http://mizage.com/divvy/#divvyMac
- jasonfried 15y ago
  I'm a fan of SizeUp. http://irradiatedsoftware.com/sizeup/ http://irradiatedsoftware.com/sizeup/
  - cake 15y ago
    SizeUp is great if you have multiple monitors too, you can send a window from one screen to another in one keystroke.
    - HaloZero 15y ago
      except Adobe Air apps (stupid hipchat)
  - aaronbrethorst 15y ago
    SizeUp is awesome. Easy window management without having to touch the mouse? Yes please!
- trebor 15y ago
  I use Moom. It's inexpensive and you just hover your mouse above the maximize icon. http://manytricks.com/moom/ http://manytricks.com/moom/
- stevenbedrick 15y ago
  Yup, the fifteen bucks I spent on Divvy were definitely worth it.
- oflannabhra 15y ago
  I just purchased this. One feature I'm really looking for is the ability to launch multiple apps in a specific configuration. The best solution I've found so far is using Applescript. I realize I might just be overlooking already implemented features. Anyone have a recommendation?
nzoschke 15y ago
What do you use tiling for? If anything Apple is moving even farther away from tiling with the full-screen changes in Lion.
- euroclydon 15y ago
  I use tiling when I want two Windows to each occupy half of the screen. Let me ask you a question: What on God's green earth does the little green plus button do in OSX? I just pressed it three times on Chrome and here's what happened: 1) The windows was occupying the entire screen (thank you Cinch) and when I clicked the green plus, the window changed to roughly 600x800. 2) Window changed to to 600x1100. 3) Window didn't change any more. WTF?
  - ugh 15y ago
    The green button tries to remove all scroll bars and it will also shrink the window down to where there are just no scroll bars (i.e. shrinking it one more pixel would activate the scrollbars).
  - nzoschke 15y ago
    It fits the window to the size of the content. Or something. Can't deny it's confusing and I never use it myself I'll have to give cinch a try, I've just gotten used to really janky window layouts in OS X.
  - cubicle67 15y ago
    sizes the window to best fit the content (in theory). I think it's up to the application to specify that size though. Works very well in Safari, but always seems to go to full screen for Firefox. Chrome's working sort of as expected here alternating between best fit and some stupid tiny size it seems to have concocted.
  - rahoulb 15y ago
    In old MacOS it was called "zoom", not "maximize" and the application developer was supposed to swap between the "ideal small size window" and the "ideal large size window". In this age of cross-platform apps, and people who are used to "maximize" instead of "zoom" it is a concept that has been long forgotten
Sidnicious 15y ago
It has always been possible to archive a message by moving it to the "All Mail" mailbox, right?
giostyle 15y ago
Flexiglass is the best: http://www.nulana.com/flexiglass http://www.nulana.com/flexiglass
lloeki 15y ago
Window Magnet is really nice and complete while still sticking to Less is More. Shame it's so unknown.
mml 15y ago
Yes, you can archive Gmail messages now (and in ios5)

cstuder 15y ago

About GMail archiving: Really not? (I haven't read trough this massive review yet.) At least on iOS it is possible to convince the delete button to archive. (By setting the trash folder to 'All mail', if I remember correctly.) I would imagine that Apple Mail should be at least as configurable as its iOS counterpart.

ugh 15y ago
iOS supports archiving perfectly fine. No need for any tricks. Lion kinda does. You can archive but doing that will actually create an “Archive” folder and moves the mail there. That’s not the expected behavior when using Gmail. (The expected behavior would be to move the mail to the “All Messages” folder, or, in Gmail lingo, to remove all labels from the message. iOS does that, Lion doesn’t.)
- nirvdrum 15y ago
  Archiving is handled through IMAP delete by default. Check your GMail settings and go to the "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab. Most likely your setting for "When I mark a message in IMAP as deleted" is "Archive the message (default)."
  - ugh 15y ago
    But I want to be able to delete mails (anywhere). I don’t want to repurpose the delete button, no way.
    - kissickas 15y ago
      Move the mail to the trash folder. Sorry, not a 1-button solution, but it works.
euroclydon 15y ago
Yeah... And then you delete how?
- cstuder 15y ago
  Umm, the point of GMail is to never delete anything anymore. I love being able to search through my years of old mail.
  - euroclydon 15y ago
    That was the point of gmail... five years ago. And then they added delete, because there are some message which never again need to see the light of day.
- kristofferR 15y ago
  Move it to the folder Thrash

justinchen 15y ago

I use Divvy for Mac for arranging windows. I love it. http://mizage.com/divvy/#divvyMac http://mizage.com/divvy/#divvyMac

jasonfried 15y ago
I'm a fan of SizeUp. http://irradiatedsoftware.com/sizeup/ http://irradiatedsoftware.com/sizeup/
- cake 15y ago
  SizeUp is great if you have multiple monitors too, you can send a window from one screen to another in one keystroke.
  - HaloZero 15y ago
    except Adobe Air apps (stupid hipchat)
- aaronbrethorst 15y ago
  SizeUp is awesome. Easy window management without having to touch the mouse? Yes please!
trebor 15y ago
I use Moom. It's inexpensive and you just hover your mouse above the maximize icon. http://manytricks.com/moom/ http://manytricks.com/moom/
stevenbedrick 15y ago
Yup, the fifteen bucks I spent on Divvy were definitely worth it.
oflannabhra 15y ago
I just purchased this. One feature I'm really looking for is the ability to launch multiple apps in a specific configuration. The best solution I've found so far is using Applescript. I realize I might just be overlooking already implemented features. Anyone have a recommendation?

nzoschke 15y ago

What do you use tiling for? If anything Apple is moving even farther away from tiling with the full-screen changes in Lion.

euroclydon 15y ago
I use tiling when I want two Windows to each occupy half of the screen. Let me ask you a question: What on God's green earth does the little green plus button do in OSX? I just pressed it three times on Chrome and here's what happened: 1) The windows was occupying the entire screen (thank you Cinch) and when I clicked the green plus, the window changed to roughly 600x800. 2) Window changed to to 600x1100. 3) Window didn't change any more. WTF?
- ugh 15y ago
  The green button tries to remove all scroll bars and it will also shrink the window down to where there are just no scroll bars (i.e. shrinking it one more pixel would activate the scrollbars).
- nzoschke 15y ago
  It fits the window to the size of the content. Or something. Can't deny it's confusing and I never use it myself I'll have to give cinch a try, I've just gotten used to really janky window layouts in OS X.
- cubicle67 15y ago
  sizes the window to best fit the content (in theory). I think it's up to the application to specify that size though. Works very well in Safari, but always seems to go to full screen for Firefox. Chrome's working sort of as expected here alternating between best fit and some stupid tiny size it seems to have concocted.
- rahoulb 15y ago
  In old MacOS it was called "zoom", not "maximize" and the application developer was supposed to swap between the "ideal small size window" and the "ideal large size window". In this age of cross-platform apps, and people who are used to "maximize" instead of "zoom" it is a concept that has been long forgotten

Sidnicious 15y ago

It has always been possible to archive a message by moving it to the "All Mail" mailbox, right?

giostyle 15y ago

Flexiglass is the best: http://www.nulana.com/flexiglass http://www.nulana.com/flexiglass

lloeki 15y ago

Window Magnet is really nice and complete while still sticking to Less is More. Shame it's so unknown.

mml 15y ago

Yes, you can archive Gmail messages now (and in ios5)