Your original argument was much more dismissive: > It’s an illusion. The world goes ‘round. > It’s the same thing humans have done for a hundred thousand year

Your original argument was much more dismissive: > It’s an illusion. The world goes ‘round. > It’s the same thing humans have done for a hundred thousand years: sit around a campfire telling ghost stories. Now your argument is fundamentally different, and more reasonable. > Suffice to say, yes, civilizations collapse. But that isn’t really the point. Everybody dies, but if you claim each day that one specific person is going to die of X, you’ll be mistaken more times than not. I see the same pattern in most collapse theories. There has been doomsday climate hysteria, but usually not in the scientific community, and in my experience it is most often found in derisive and mocking tabloid headlines, somewhat similar to your original argument.