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If you're concerned about losing your games, you can easily do backups from the Steam application, copying game folders, or using something like SLSK https://gi

If you're concerned about losing your games, you can easily do backups from the Steam application, copying game folders, or using something like SLSK https://github.com/skyformat99/SLSK https://github.com/skyformat99/SLSK Bypassing Steamworks basic DRM is easy. Other DRMs obviously require special workarounds.

joveian 5y ago
Or you can buy games on GOG instead and support DRM-free (I think they are unfortunately the only fully DRM-free store at this point).
- account42 5y ago
  Valve are a lot more serious about Linux support though, going as far as employing graphics driver developers. GOG (and CDPR) on the other hand can't even be bothered to port their own client and games. Also, GOG is not 100% DRM-free anymore, even if they want to advertise themselves that way. [0] [0] https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1 https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singlep...
  - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
    > Also, GOG is not 100% DRM-free anymore, even if they want to advertise themselves that way. [0] I'm not happy about these features requiring an internet connection, but they seem pretty minor. The alternative would probably have been that those features were left out of the GOG versions completely.
    - lupire 5y ago
      That doesn't make it OK to lie.
      - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
        It's not quite a lie, though. The games are 100% playable offline; some optional features are not.
  - handrous 5y ago
    > Valve are a lot more serious about Linux support though, going as far as employing graphics driver developers. > GOG (and CDPR) on the other hand can't even be bothered to port their own client and games. To be fair, I'm pretty sure GOG has a hell of a lot less money than Valve. They don't benefit from any of the gambling-mechanics or multiplayer game "bling" sales that bring in so much of Valve's money, aside from having a much smaller share of PC game sales than Valve does. Valve's got to be way more profitable plus have much higher income, so have the margin to play with stuff like this—which is in their interest, because the weaker alternative operating systems are, the more Valve operates only at the pleasure of Microsoft.
- dantondwa 5y ago
  I've bought many many games on GOG for years because of this. Lately, GOG games come in installers made out of 20 or so parts which take ages to download manually. The only real way to download their games is by using their GOG Galaxy Client. Not that much better than Steam, which on the other hand has fantastic Linux support, while GOG can't be bothered to port their GOG Galaxy client to Linux. Luckily Lutris allows me to somehow compensate for GOG's lack of interest in Linux, but still, I feel they really do not care about the DRM thing.
  - joveian 5y ago
    While I haven't used it, there is the open source lgogdownloader: https://github.com/Sude-/lgogdownloader https://github.com/Sude-/lgogdownloader I only have 12Mbps DSL and an offline game system that I use a FAT formatted microSD card to transfer to so I appreciate the split files, even though it does get annoying with the huge games. I agree that GOG's Linux support is minimal; often they don't even provide Linux versions that are available on other stores :(. Two of the isses on the list account42 links to are more serious, although most are fairly minor (there are also a few issues not on the list). Not to excuse those exceptions, however I don't know of any other store that is anywhere close. I have no inside info but my my suspicion is that many CD Projekt investors resent the DRM-free aspect of GOG and would like it to change, while the people running GOG realize it is the major unique aspect of GOG and trying to change it could sink the business. OTOH, I suspect the CD Projekt investors mostly see GOG as a way to get a better deal from Steam for CDPR games. Hard to say what will happen in the future.
  - foofly 5y ago
    I've found that Minigalaxy is an excellent GoG application on linux https://sharkwouter.github.io/minigalaxy/ https://sharkwouter.github.io/minigalaxy/ It deals with both downloading and installing as well as integrating Wine.
    - ekianjo 5y ago
      It's only as good as long as someone keeps developing it. I'd prefer first party support any day.
- ekianjo 5y ago
  GOG has zero Linux support (or close to none) so they don't get my money at all.
  - samtheDamned 5y ago
    Which I've always thought was weird since I'd expect a store with their stance on DRM would be one of the first in line to at least have a linux client.
    - ekianjo 5y ago
      Yeah. It never made sense to me either.
  - the_af 5y ago
    What do you mean? I bought plenty of Linux games on GOG (or games bundled to run on Linux).
    - ekianjo 5y ago
      where is the Galaxy Linux client?
      - the_af 5y ago
        I don't need it. I install games by clicking on the provided .sh installer, then click on their desktop icon to start them (or find the app using shortcuts) and all of this is seamless on Ubuntu. This is also how we used to install and play games on Windows, before the Steam era. Why do I need Galaxy?
        ekianjo 5y ago
        If a company pretends to support Linux, they should have a Linux client, whether I need it or not. They basically offer no Linux support, and all the Linux clients that come on their store pages come from developers' willingness, not GOG's. Itch.io has a Linux client, by the way.
samtheDamned 5y ago
Also I'm pretty sure steam has a clause in its TOS that will open the DRM on all your steam games if steam shuts down

joveian 5y ago

Or you can buy games on GOG instead and support DRM-free (I think they are unfortunately the only fully DRM-free store at this point).

account42 5y ago
Valve are a lot more serious about Linux support though, going as far as employing graphics driver developers. GOG (and CDPR) on the other hand can't even be bothered to port their own client and games. Also, GOG is not 100% DRM-free anymore, even if they want to advertise themselves that way. [0] [0] https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1 https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singlep...
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  > Also, GOG is not 100% DRM-free anymore, even if they want to advertise themselves that way. [0] I'm not happy about these features requiring an internet connection, but they seem pretty minor. The alternative would probably have been that those features were left out of the GOG versions completely.
  - lupire 5y ago
    That doesn't make it OK to lie.
    - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
      It's not quite a lie, though. The games are 100% playable offline; some optional features are not.
- handrous 5y ago
  > Valve are a lot more serious about Linux support though, going as far as employing graphics driver developers. > GOG (and CDPR) on the other hand can't even be bothered to port their own client and games. To be fair, I'm pretty sure GOG has a hell of a lot less money than Valve. They don't benefit from any of the gambling-mechanics or multiplayer game "bling" sales that bring in so much of Valve's money, aside from having a much smaller share of PC game sales than Valve does. Valve's got to be way more profitable plus have much higher income, so have the margin to play with stuff like this—which is in their interest, because the weaker alternative operating systems are, the more Valve operates only at the pleasure of Microsoft.
dantondwa 5y ago
I've bought many many games on GOG for years because of this. Lately, GOG games come in installers made out of 20 or so parts which take ages to download manually. The only real way to download their games is by using their GOG Galaxy Client. Not that much better than Steam, which on the other hand has fantastic Linux support, while GOG can't be bothered to port their GOG Galaxy client to Linux. Luckily Lutris allows me to somehow compensate for GOG's lack of interest in Linux, but still, I feel they really do not care about the DRM thing.
- joveian 5y ago
  While I haven't used it, there is the open source lgogdownloader: https://github.com/Sude-/lgogdownloader https://github.com/Sude-/lgogdownloader I only have 12Mbps DSL and an offline game system that I use a FAT formatted microSD card to transfer to so I appreciate the split files, even though it does get annoying with the huge games. I agree that GOG's Linux support is minimal; often they don't even provide Linux versions that are available on other stores :(. Two of the isses on the list account42 links to are more serious, although most are fairly minor (there are also a few issues not on the list). Not to excuse those exceptions, however I don't know of any other store that is anywhere close. I have no inside info but my my suspicion is that many CD Projekt investors resent the DRM-free aspect of GOG and would like it to change, while the people running GOG realize it is the major unique aspect of GOG and trying to change it could sink the business. OTOH, I suspect the CD Projekt investors mostly see GOG as a way to get a better deal from Steam for CDPR games. Hard to say what will happen in the future.
- foofly 5y ago
  I've found that Minigalaxy is an excellent GoG application on linux https://sharkwouter.github.io/minigalaxy/ https://sharkwouter.github.io/minigalaxy/ It deals with both downloading and installing as well as integrating Wine.
  - ekianjo 5y ago
    It's only as good as long as someone keeps developing it. I'd prefer first party support any day.
ekianjo 5y ago
GOG has zero Linux support (or close to none) so they don't get my money at all.
- samtheDamned 5y ago
  Which I've always thought was weird since I'd expect a store with their stance on DRM would be one of the first in line to at least have a linux client.
  - ekianjo 5y ago
    Yeah. It never made sense to me either.
- the_af 5y ago
  What do you mean? I bought plenty of Linux games on GOG (or games bundled to run on Linux).
  - ekianjo 5y ago
    where is the Galaxy Linux client?
    - the_af 5y ago
      I don't need it. I install games by clicking on the provided .sh installer, then click on their desktop icon to start them (or find the app using shortcuts) and all of this is seamless on Ubuntu. This is also how we used to install and play games on Windows, before the Steam era. Why do I need Galaxy?
      - ekianjo 5y ago
        If a company pretends to support Linux, they should have a Linux client, whether I need it or not. They basically offer no Linux support, and all the Linux clients that come on their store pages come from developers' willingness, not GOG's. Itch.io has a Linux client, by the way.

samtheDamned 5y ago

Also I'm pretty sure steam has a clause in its TOS that will open the DRM on all your steam games if steam shuts down