3 ms·

Yes, it's quite the horrific number, and I expect it to rise still ... here in Germany it's currently 59 confirmed, that number was lower a few hours ago - and

Yes, it's quite the horrific number, and I expect it to rise still ... here in Germany it's currently 59 confirmed, that number was lower a few hours ago - and apparently this doesn't even include bodies they know exist, but couldn't get to yet. And 1300 missing currently. This village was essentially completely destroyed - this is the best visualization of this I've seen, from /r/europe: https://i.redd.it/9fdhwvte8fb71.jpg https://i.redd.it/9fdhwvte8fb71.jpg We have apparently no statewide warning mechanism or even if we had, had the foresight to evacuate this region - now, there are calls for evacuation for other, not yet flooded, regions. I have most of the info from this German article: https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2021-07/unwetter-katastrophe-hochwasser-rlp-nrw-todesfaelle-vermisste https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2021-07/unwet...

stkdump 5y ago
I had a warning for 'extrem erbiebigem dauerregen', I think since sunday or monday in the Nina app. So something like extremely plentyful sustained rainfall. I think putting 1 and 1 together, you could expect some flooding to occour. But of course the details (where do we actually need to evacuate) are more complex. It seems for example my city, while inside the region wasn't hit nearly as hard as a few years back, which was already a once in a century flooding, but not so widespread.
higeorge13 5y ago
This is a shocking picture; as if the whole town was built on top of an ancient river.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  Yup. There's clearly a former oxbow there. Europe was basically all deforested farmland at one point. As it industrialized the last places farming was economically viable were the most fertile land which is going to be the floodplain and the river's former oxbow and resulting swamp. Then a developer probably comes along (say 1910 or 1920 or something) and builds on the easiest to build land, which is the already cleared land of the last farm to croak. Then 100yr later we get a record rainfall and the river takes it all back for a couple weeks.
- alternatetwo 5y ago
  And actually ancient, the specific village was first mentioned in 1074[1], and a nearby city was at least a settlement in 1000-500 BC[2]. So it's not like extreme floodings there are common, which makes it even worse. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimerzheim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimerzheim [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Neuenahr-Ahrweiler#Antiquity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Neuenahr-Ahrweiler#Antiqui...

stkdump 5y ago

I had a warning for 'extrem erbiebigem dauerregen', I think since sunday or monday in the Nina app. So something like extremely plentyful sustained rainfall. I think putting 1 and 1 together, you could expect some flooding to occour. But of course the details (where do we actually need to evacuate) are more complex. It seems for example my city, while inside the region wasn't hit nearly as hard as a few years back, which was already a once in a century flooding, but not so widespread.

higeorge13 5y ago

This is a shocking picture; as if the whole town was built on top of an ancient river.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
Yup. There's clearly a former oxbow there. Europe was basically all deforested farmland at one point. As it industrialized the last places farming was economically viable were the most fertile land which is going to be the floodplain and the river's former oxbow and resulting swamp. Then a developer probably comes along (say 1910 or 1920 or something) and builds on the easiest to build land, which is the already cleared land of the last farm to croak. Then 100yr later we get a record rainfall and the river takes it all back for a couple weeks.
alternatetwo 5y ago
And actually ancient, the specific village was first mentioned in 1074[1], and a nearby city was at least a settlement in 1000-500 BC[2]. So it's not like extreme floodings there are common, which makes it even worse. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimerzheim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimerzheim [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Neuenahr-Ahrweiler#Antiquity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Neuenahr-Ahrweiler#Antiqui...