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It’s not actually crossing the border that’s the issue, but stories like this got a lot of attention in Canada: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/canadians-who-received

It’s not actually crossing the border that’s the issue, but stories like this got a lot of attention in Canada: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/canadians-who-received-astrazeneca-vaccine-excluded-from-seeing-bruce-springsteen-as-broadway-opens-up-1.5475262 https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/canadians-who-received-astrazeneca... (although the theatre has since reversed their stance)

jonny_eh 5y ago
That story gained so much traction that I totally believe it caused people to turn their nose up at the AZ vaccine.
- SirLJ 5y ago
  Also the blood clots and the facts that a lot of countries are limiting the use… looks like Canada is dumping unwanted stuff to the developing world…
  - mthoms 5y ago
    Come on, “dumping”? We can visit Facebook for hyperbolic and paranoid cynicism. Pragmatically speaking, it’s the only vaccine (that Canada has access to) that can be stored and transported in a regular fridge. Logistically it’s the best choice for donating to poorer, undeveloped countries. Sure, it’s slightly higher risk than the others, but it’s a thousand times better than nothing. On a personal note, my 69 year old mother got it and had no problems. The odds of developing problems are astronomically low.
    - Tenoke 5y ago
      I had AZ (both doses) and much preferred it to waiting for something else. The extra risk is miniscule and the extra period of protection likely pays off more than later but slightly higher protection.
      - SirLJ 5y ago
        Not approved by the USA and suspended in a lot of countries…
      - 908B64B197 5y ago
        Why not just get Pfizer or Moderna? They were available at the same time.
        Tenoke 5y ago
        I'm in Germany. The distribution here was all over the place but what I could get earlier was AZ.
    - alephu5 5y ago
      https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-benefits-still-outweigh-risks-despite-possible-link-rare-blood-clots https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-vaccine-astrazene... 7 clots in 20 million vaccinated which is below background levels.
      - mikeblackson 5y ago
        Canada should donate their Pfizer and Moderna shots instead. Canada is more capable of dealing with any resulting blood clot issues than lower to poor income countries.
        mthoms 5y ago
        That's a good point but AZ is the only vaccine (that Canada has access to) that can be stored and transported in a regular fridge. Logistically it’s the best choice for donating to poorer, undeveloped countries.
  - evandijk70 5y ago
    Even if it was 'unwanted stuff' - the alternative would be that Canada sells the vaccines to other countries? Or would you prefer it if Canada would destroy the vaccines?

jonny_eh 5y ago

That story gained so much traction that I totally believe it caused people to turn their nose up at the AZ vaccine.

SirLJ 5y ago
Also the blood clots and the facts that a lot of countries are limiting the use… looks like Canada is dumping unwanted stuff to the developing world…
- mthoms 5y ago
  Come on, “dumping”? We can visit Facebook for hyperbolic and paranoid cynicism. Pragmatically speaking, it’s the only vaccine (that Canada has access to) that can be stored and transported in a regular fridge. Logistically it’s the best choice for donating to poorer, undeveloped countries. Sure, it’s slightly higher risk than the others, but it’s a thousand times better than nothing. On a personal note, my 69 year old mother got it and had no problems. The odds of developing problems are astronomically low.
  - Tenoke 5y ago
    I had AZ (both doses) and much preferred it to waiting for something else. The extra risk is miniscule and the extra period of protection likely pays off more than later but slightly higher protection.
    - SirLJ 5y ago
      Not approved by the USA and suspended in a lot of countries…
    - 908B64B197 5y ago
      Why not just get Pfizer or Moderna? They were available at the same time.
      - Tenoke 5y ago
        I'm in Germany. The distribution here was all over the place but what I could get earlier was AZ.
  - alephu5 5y ago
    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-benefits-still-outweigh-risks-despite-possible-link-rare-blood-clots https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-vaccine-astrazene... 7 clots in 20 million vaccinated which is below background levels.
    - mikeblackson 5y ago
      Canada should donate their Pfizer and Moderna shots instead. Canada is more capable of dealing with any resulting blood clot issues than lower to poor income countries.
      - mthoms 5y ago
        That's a good point but AZ is the only vaccine (that Canada has access to) that can be stored and transported in a regular fridge. Logistically it’s the best choice for donating to poorer, undeveloped countries.
- evandijk70 5y ago
  Even if it was 'unwanted stuff' - the alternative would be that Canada sells the vaccines to other countries? Or would you prefer it if Canada would destroy the vaccines?