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>People make the collaboration argument; but studies show people do not interact more in open offices. i do not buy this at all. in the office i interacted wi

>People make the collaboration argument; but studies show people do not interact more in open offices. i do not buy this at all. in the office i interacted with dozens of people daily that i otherwise have no specific reason to directly send slack message to.

samatman 5y ago
The argument against open plan offices is different (and stronger) than the argument against having offices at all. Private offices with public congregating areas and meeting rooms are strictly better than open offices, in my opinion. Even cube farms are an improvement over the bullpen open plan, if a company can't afford enough real estate to give everyone their own office. Remote work entails stronger tradeoffs. I've been at it for four years, and would never go back, but it does take a certain sort of personality and working style to make it functional, and the case for offices is strong. The post you're replying to was perhaps conflating the two questions, but was specific about addressing open plan offices.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  >Private offices with public congregating areas and meeting rooms are strictly better than open offices, in my opinion. Even cube farms are an improvement over the bullpen open plan, if a company can't afford enough real estate to give everyone their own office. I can't agree with this enough. Private cubes and offices always felt like I was given the respect I was entitled. You understand that when I clock in and clock out, I am working. I am converting man hours into the task you need done. I am not screwing around doing nothing all day. Managers whom I've had that didn't like those ideas and wanted you in open office environments tended to be power oriented or had nothing else better to do with their time but to spy on employees.
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>People make the collaboration argument; but studies show people do not interact more in open offices. i do not buy this at all. in the office i interacted wi

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samatman 5y ago
The argument against open plan offices is different (and stronger) than the argument against having offices at all. Private offices with public congregating areas and meeting rooms are strictly better than open offices, in my opinion. Even cube farms are an improvement over the bullpen open plan, if a company can't afford enough real estate to give everyone their own office. Remote work entails stronger tradeoffs. I've been at it for four years, and would never go back, but it does take a certain sort of personality and working style to make it functional, and the case for offices is strong. The post you're replying to was perhaps conflating the two questions, but was specific about addressing open plan offices.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  >Private offices with public congregating areas and meeting rooms are strictly better than open offices, in my opinion. Even cube farms are an improvement over the bullpen open plan, if a company can't afford enough real estate to give everyone their own office. I can't agree with this enough. Private cubes and offices always felt like I was given the respect I was entitled. You understand that when I clock in and clock out, I am working. I am converting man hours into the task you need done. I am not screwing around doing nothing all day. Managers whom I've had that didn't like those ideas and wanted you in open office environments tended to be power oriented or had nothing else better to do with their time but to spy on employees.
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