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If a person who's never seen a goat looks at a million copyrighted images of goats and draws a goat, are they committing copyright infringement? What if an alg

If a person who's never seen a goat looks at a million copyrighted images of goats and draws a goat, are they committing copyright infringement? What if an algorithm does the same? The result is 'a recomposition of learned fragments' in either case.

_ph_ 5y ago
The point is, with a human you can assume that the person did learn how a goat looks and that a drawing isn't a mechanical translation of one image. Only in cases, where a single image is faithfully reproduced in the drawing, copyright questions might arise. But the base for this is: humans can learn and have an obvious creative process. With the AI it is not clear, that there is an abstract lerning beyond building certain memories.
- jozvolskyef 5y ago
  From what I understand about these models, having studied and applied machine learning but not deep learning, they all build abstractions (embeddings) akin to eigenfaces[1][2] where many samples of a feature are turned into an abstract feature. These abstract features are then manipulated by the model. Sure, just like with Fourier transform-based compression, anything can be reconstructed from primitive features, it is called overfitting and the challenge of training these models is building a learning process that achieves generalization rather than overfitting. It is not true that 'it is not clear that there is abstract learning', because without it, generalization is impossible, and without generalization the model wouldn't pass even the most trivial benchmarks. [1]: https://media.geeksforgeeks.org/wp-content/uploads/20200317134836/train_faces.png https://media.geeksforgeeks.org/wp-content/uploads/202003171... [2]: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/ml-face-recognition-using-eigenfaces-pca-algorithm/ https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/ml-face-recognition-using-eige...

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If a person who's never seen a goat looks at a million copyrighted images of goats and draws a goat, are they committing copyright infringement? What if an alg

by jozvolskyef 5y ago

_ph_ 5y ago
The point is, with a human you can assume that the person did learn how a goat looks and that a drawing isn't a mechanical translation of one image. Only in cases, where a single image is faithfully reproduced in the drawing, copyright questions might arise. But the base for this is: humans can learn and have an obvious creative process. With the AI it is not clear, that there is an abstract lerning beyond building certain memories.
- jozvolskyef 5y ago
  From what I understand about these models, having studied and applied machine learning but not deep learning, they all build abstractions (embeddings) akin to eigenfaces[1][2] where many samples of a feature are turned into an abstract feature. These abstract features are then manipulated by the model. Sure, just like with Fourier transform-based compression, anything can be reconstructed from primitive features, it is called overfitting and the challenge of training these models is building a learning process that achieves generalization rather than overfitting. It is not true that 'it is not clear that there is abstract learning', because without it, generalization is impossible, and without generalization the model wouldn't pass even the most trivial benchmarks. [1]: https://media.geeksforgeeks.org/wp-content/uploads/20200317134836/train_faces.png https://media.geeksforgeeks.org/wp-content/uploads/202003171... [2]: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/ml-face-recognition-using-eigenfaces-pca-algorithm/ https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/ml-face-recognition-using-eige...