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There are products out there that would increase my quality of life that I'm not aware of or not actively thinking about. In an ideal world ads are about inform

There are products out there that would increase my quality of life that I'm not aware of or not actively thinking about. In an ideal world ads are about informing the consumer, so absolutely ads can provide value to you as well. One of the recent life improving products I never thought about before an ad is an electric toothbrush - honestly I saw them but I considered it a silly gadget. Saw a plug in a random video, got some cheap version and was really surprised how useful it is I upgraded to a decent model. Likewise I never used an electric razor, tried Philips one blade after seeing an ad and it's also a great improvement. Point being there are products out there that would improve your life if you knew about them. That being said I dislike tracking not because I might get manipulated - I also prefer relevant ads. I dislike the fact that they can better target vulnerable groups - like depressed people with addictive personalities and gaming - this is the majority of app stores profit, I would bet it's a huge ad% as well - mobile gaming is basically milking people with low impulse control and nothing better to do with their time. It's just like those scamming telemarketing scum targeting old people

villasv 5y ago
Yes, there are plenty of products out there that I would like to discover. But these are one in a hundred. I'd gladly sacrifice the few valuable ones. In fact I already do this, because I use adblockers and pi-hole as much as I possibly can. I'm not completely against marketing. I pretty often buy things advertised in podcasts, stuff that obviously paid for product placement in specific places. But those are ads that fit the medium, usually they're very related to the topic at hand. This is not at all the case with all random bullshit that shows up on Facebook and YouTube. Those are most often than not ads full of toxic subtleties like unreasonable standards of living, body image and success.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  What have you bought from podcast ads? I’ve never heard an interesting one. Possibly ever.
ashtonkem 5y ago
Sometimes ads bring items into your life that improve it. That’s not going to be the majority of cases though, usually ads will bring products into your life for the good of someone else, which is bad. If you didn’t have ads, your dentist would have told you about electric toothbrushes.
AussieWog93 5y ago
>In an ideal world ads are about informing the consumer, so absolutely ads can provide value to you as well. I agree with you that learning about new products can be a genuinely good thing. I don't think ads are the best way to deliver this information, though. My wife joined a Facebook group dedicated to house cleaning, and the products the ladies have recommended (Bar Keeper's Friend, Scrub Daddy, Bissell SpotClean) have all been fantastic. The paid ads on her Facebook are either scams, AliExpress crap sold at full price, or established brands we already know (Amazon, Big W.)
fzzzy 5y ago
You are lucky you started with the one blade, it is much better than every other electric razor which has been on the market forever.
deepstack 5y ago
>That being said I dislike tracking not because I might get manipulated - I also prefer relevant ads. I dislike the fact that they can better target vulnerable groups - like depressed people with addictive personalities and gaming - this is the majority of app stores profit, I would bet it's a huge ad% as well - mobile gaming is basically milking people with low impulse control and nothing better to do with their time. It's just like those scamming telemarketing scum targeting old people It is more push pull thing. - pull request for relavant ads, when I actively searching for something (and a search engine would be better). - push request for ads that is random. If I see something I like I'll click it.
- Hermitian909 5y ago
  This is why, of all the ad based companies, I like Pinterest best. It's basically a digital magazine. You show up and say, "I'd like to see pictures of cute wicker baskets, and mid-century modern couches please!" and they deliver.

villasv 5y ago

Yes, there are plenty of products out there that I would like to discover. But these are one in a hundred. I'd gladly sacrifice the few valuable ones. In fact I already do this, because I use adblockers and pi-hole as much as I possibly can. I'm not completely against marketing. I pretty often buy things advertised in podcasts, stuff that obviously paid for product placement in specific places. But those are ads that fit the medium, usually they're very related to the topic at hand. This is not at all the case with all random bullshit that shows up on Facebook and YouTube. Those are most often than not ads full of toxic subtleties like unreasonable standards of living, body image and success.

skinnymuch 5y ago
What have you bought from podcast ads? I’ve never heard an interesting one. Possibly ever.

ashtonkem 5y ago

Sometimes ads bring items into your life that improve it. That’s not going to be the majority of cases though, usually ads will bring products into your life for the good of someone else, which is bad. If you didn’t have ads, your dentist would have told you about electric toothbrushes.

AussieWog93 5y ago

>In an ideal world ads are about informing the consumer, so absolutely ads can provide value to you as well. I agree with you that learning about new products can be a genuinely good thing. I don't think ads are the best way to deliver this information, though. My wife joined a Facebook group dedicated to house cleaning, and the products the ladies have recommended (Bar Keeper's Friend, Scrub Daddy, Bissell SpotClean) have all been fantastic. The paid ads on her Facebook are either scams, AliExpress crap sold at full price, or established brands we already know (Amazon, Big W.)

fzzzy 5y ago

You are lucky you started with the one blade, it is much better than every other electric razor which has been on the market forever.

deepstack 5y ago

>That being said I dislike tracking not because I might get manipulated - I also prefer relevant ads. I dislike the fact that they can better target vulnerable groups - like depressed people with addictive personalities and gaming - this is the majority of app stores profit, I would bet it's a huge ad% as well - mobile gaming is basically milking people with low impulse control and nothing better to do with their time. It's just like those scamming telemarketing scum targeting old people It is more push pull thing. - pull request for relavant ads, when I actively searching for something (and a search engine would be better). - push request for ads that is random. If I see something I like I'll click it.

Hermitian909 5y ago
This is why, of all the ad based companies, I like Pinterest best. It's basically a digital magazine. You show up and say, "I'd like to see pictures of cute wicker baskets, and mid-century modern couches please!" and they deliver.