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You call opinions you disagree with lies.

pault 5y ago
Incidents of voter fraud, and side effects from vaccines, etc are quantifiable, therefore not subject to opinion. Interpretation yes, but interpretation must be supported by evidence.
user-the-name 5y ago
Yes, there we go: This reaction, when calling it obvious and blatant lies. Every time. Believing in lies is now normal and expected of right-wingers, and calling it out is called attacking political opinions. It's not. It's lies.
- JKCalhoun 5y ago
  I see you point. But using "right-wingers" is a tell of sorts. It makes you appear dismissive of the opposing viewpoint. But otherwise I agree: there is such a thing as truth and there are out and out lies. I hope that my views are based on truths but I recognize that there are areas that while true are nuanced enough that someone else can come to a different conclusion than me. For this reason I don't claim that everyone with a different view is backing their view with lies. Sometimes though, some of them are.
  - user-the-name 5y ago
    I am dismissive. Because the opposing viewpoint is believing literal lies. Of course I will dismiss that. Everyone should.
    - lovemenot 5y ago
      Labels polarise. Criticise the behaviours while allowing the perpetrator wiggle room.
      - user-the-name 5y ago
        I don't think it's my labels that are polarising anyone. If you believe this nonsense, you are fully polarised already. I didn't do that. "Leftists" didn't do that.
      - CRConrad 5y ago
        Yeah. Damn your grandfathers, for all that polarising they indulged in, 1941-45. If only they'd allowed a little wiggle room!
- throwitaway1235 5y ago
  Calling the vandalism that took place on 1/6 at the capital an insurrection, is a grotesque lie. Do me a favor. Call it an insurrection so I can call you a liar.
  - eggsmediumrare 5y ago
    By what definition of "insurrection" was that not an insurrection?
    - war1025 5y ago
      It was an insurrection in the same way that any other large scale protest was an insurrection. It was not, however, "the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war" like Biden, other Democrats, and the media at large have claimed. [1] [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/right-wing-erupts-after-biden-declares-jan-6-%E2%80%9Cworst-attack-on-democracy-since-civil-war/ar-BB1gajQ2 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/right-wing-erupts-af...
      - eggsmediumrare 5y ago
        What was worse?
        war1025 5y ago
        Even if by some crazy implausibility it was the "greatest threat to our democracy since the Civil War", that's like saying, "Man, I just got a paper cut and that is sure the worst injury I've had since that accident where I was paralyzed from the waist down"
        eggsmediumrare 5y ago
        What was worse? And are you kidding me? What if the mob had caught AOC or Pelosi? That would have turned from a "paper cut" to a political murder during an insurrection.

Incidents of voter fraud, and side effects from vaccines, etc are quantifiable, therefore not subject to opinion. Interpretation yes, but interpretation must be supported by evidence.

user-the-name 5y ago

Yes, there we go: This reaction, when calling it obvious and blatant lies. Every time. Believing in lies is now normal and expected of right-wingers, and calling it out is called attacking political opinions. It's not. It's lies.

JKCalhoun 5y ago
I see you point. But using "right-wingers" is a tell of sorts. It makes you appear dismissive of the opposing viewpoint. But otherwise I agree: there is such a thing as truth and there are out and out lies. I hope that my views are based on truths but I recognize that there are areas that while true are nuanced enough that someone else can come to a different conclusion than me. For this reason I don't claim that everyone with a different view is backing their view with lies. Sometimes though, some of them are.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  I am dismissive. Because the opposing viewpoint is believing literal lies. Of course I will dismiss that. Everyone should.
  - lovemenot 5y ago
    Labels polarise. Criticise the behaviours while allowing the perpetrator wiggle room.
    - user-the-name 5y ago
      I don't think it's my labels that are polarising anyone. If you believe this nonsense, you are fully polarised already. I didn't do that. "Leftists" didn't do that.
    - CRConrad 5y ago
      Yeah. Damn your grandfathers, for all that polarising they indulged in, 1941-45. If only they'd allowed a little wiggle room!
throwitaway1235 5y ago
Calling the vandalism that took place on 1/6 at the capital an insurrection, is a grotesque lie. Do me a favor. Call it an insurrection so I can call you a liar.
- eggsmediumrare 5y ago
  By what definition of "insurrection" was that not an insurrection?
  - war1025 5y ago
    It was an insurrection in the same way that any other large scale protest was an insurrection. It was not, however, "the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war" like Biden, other Democrats, and the media at large have claimed. [1] [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/right-wing-erupts-after-biden-declares-jan-6-%E2%80%9Cworst-attack-on-democracy-since-civil-war/ar-BB1gajQ2 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/right-wing-erupts-af...
    - eggsmediumrare 5y ago
      What was worse?
      - war1025 5y ago
        Even if by some crazy implausibility it was the "greatest threat to our democracy since the Civil War", that's like saying, "Man, I just got a paper cut and that is sure the worst injury I've had since that accident where I was paralyzed from the waist down"
        eggsmediumrare 5y ago
        What was worse? And are you kidding me? What if the mob had caught AOC or Pelosi? That would have turned from a "paper cut" to a political murder during an insurrection.