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I know that politics are to be avoided on HN but many articles Fox News requires crossing the line into talking-about-politics territory. Faux News’s Tea-party

I know that politics are to be avoided on HN but many articles Fox News requires crossing the line into talking-about-politics territory. Faux News’s Tea-party-Republican agenda is to defund education and to selectively report on cases that support that agenda. There’s a reasonable likely-hood they could be reporting falsities in the place of facts or selectively leaving out the details why the education is so poor there. Nihilistically and pessimistically, ignorance is profitable, bad-politician-friendly, and only supports some far-right cognitive biases. Optimistically though, most people are politically moderate, smart, and well educated. As a moderate and as someone outside of Baltimore, my main takeaway is that it probably sucks to start a family in Baltimore — either by the bad education or by being a city with a large Fox News presence. I’m kidding, at least Fox News has the best looking news anchors and better eye candy than every other channel except Sports Illustrated.

gruez 5y ago
>I know that politics are to be avoided on HN but many articles Fox News requires crossing the line into talking-about-politics territory. Faux News’s Tea-party-Republican agenda is to defund education and to selectively report on cases that support that agenda. There’s a reasonable likely-hood they could be reporting falsities in the place of facts or selectively leaving out the details why the education is so poor there. Can you point out which parts of the article contains such "falsities" that you're talking about? Or did you see "fox" in the domain and assumed that the article must be bad? I skimmed the article and I'm having a hard time finding a "defund the schools" agenda in there.
- webinvest 5y ago
  Reputation does not reset with every article Fox writes. What is that George Bush quote: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on…
remarkEon 5y ago
Not a Fox News article. Fox 45 is the local WBFF affiliate.
galdosdi 5y ago
Fox45 and Fox News are essentially totally unrelated. You are the unwitting victim of misunderstanding the somewhat complex and historical way TV stations are named in the US (out of curiosity, what is your approximate age and region you are from? I doubt an older American, raised with broadcast over the air, would ever make this mistake). I will explain: That site is from a local TV news station called "Fox 45 Baltimore" and they have some news. it is a local broadcast (formerly VHF or UHF, idk how digital HD broadcast works these days) TV station and FCC licensee in Baltimore that has nothing to do with Fox News. These licensees exist in neerly every major city, as do NBC, ABC etc affiliates. They harken back to an era of something called "broadcast station networks" in which local stations in different cities formed federations to share programming production costs. this system arose in the 1940s or so I believe. Fox45 and other similar stations are beholden to a broad local audience, albeit skewing older because young people don't watch TV offline much. Fox News on the other hand is a cable TV channel that has nothing to do with those other stations. it was likely founded decades later. the idea that Baltimore would be a "city with a large fox news presence" is so laughable that I really have to imagine you are very young or from somewhere very far from the northeast US. there is also a movie production company you may have heard of called 20th century Fox. it has produced many classics. none of these 3 (and a variety of other companies with the Fox name) have neerly anything to do with each other. I believe it all comes down to licensing the same trademark from each other due to historical mergers, acquisitions, and sales over the last hundred years. The Fox name originated almost a century ago with an ancient early Hollywood company called Fox Films, and later merged with 20th Century something or the other. corporate genealogy is the most monstrously complicated thing you'll ever study so I am sure I mangled many details. this is just what I remember as general common knowledge when and where I grew up. I was born in New Jersey in the 80s for reference. best regards, and enjoy reading more on this topic if it interests you. Wikipedia will be your friend here. Try reading about defunct networks like MBS, UPN, or The WB. or look at the odd Genesis of MSNBC. the MS, a younger reader might be surprised to learn, stands for Microsoft! to be clear I am not criticizing you but rather taking joy in getting to introduce you to a truly complex field of knowledge that you never before realized was right in front of your eyes: the mind bending way corporations and brands with long histories are named. try looking at the corporate genealogy for general electric or IBM or Bayer or the former AOL Time Warner. it's as complex as anything in the software world
millzlane 5y ago
You're not wrong. I've been watching FOX45 for over ten years. I would describe myself as politically moderate. And I've noticed this trend also. The Fox45 morning news show is filled with the cognitive biases you mentioned and a paid advertisements disguised as news stories. After the news there usually a segment from their FOX news affiliates and it comes with the crazy opinion based news. There is never a point from the "other side" Like with something like PBS where they have one person from each side of the argument tell their story. The news story about the Mosby's tax issue from months ago that has been resolved. They still report on it everyday. And if they don't report on that story. There will be some guy who got off on a legal technicality or because he was searched illegally without a warrant and it's somehow Mosby or her husbands fault. They always find a way to mention mosby's name but only in the negative. The recent news story about the schools is suppose to make you hate Baltimore city school officials and show how ineffective or wasteful with their spending they are. Even go as to far to show some dumbass parents on there like "I don't know why he's failing" even though they don't help the kid at all with schoolwork. Fox45 has spent all their efforts investigating the school administration when they should be interviewing kids. I bet they would never tell the story about how at Patterson high school truancy was such an issue they had hall monitors, who the student colloquied called bouncers. The bouncers job was to make sure kids were actually going to class. But it was often you'd see them bolting after a student and tackle them like a running back only to drag him back into the school to serve out the rest of his sentence for the day. Or how they swtiched to taking Scan-tron roll calls at every period because kids would leave the school after homeroom where attendance was taken originally.

gruez 5y ago

>I know that politics are to be avoided on HN but many articles Fox News requires crossing the line into talking-about-politics territory. Faux News’s Tea-party-Republican agenda is to defund education and to selectively report on cases that support that agenda. There’s a reasonable likely-hood they could be reporting falsities in the place of facts or selectively leaving out the details why the education is so poor there. Can you point out which parts of the article contains such "falsities" that you're talking about? Or did you see "fox" in the domain and assumed that the article must be bad? I skimmed the article and I'm having a hard time finding a "defund the schools" agenda in there.

webinvest 5y ago
Reputation does not reset with every article Fox writes. What is that George Bush quote: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on…

remarkEon 5y ago

Not a Fox News article. Fox 45 is the local WBFF affiliate.

galdosdi 5y ago

Fox45 and Fox News are essentially totally unrelated. You are the unwitting victim of misunderstanding the somewhat complex and historical way TV stations are named in the US (out of curiosity, what is your approximate age and region you are from? I doubt an older American, raised with broadcast over the air, would ever make this mistake). I will explain: That site is from a local TV news station called "Fox 45 Baltimore" and they have some news. it is a local broadcast (formerly VHF or UHF, idk how digital HD broadcast works these days) TV station and FCC licensee in Baltimore that has nothing to do with Fox News. These licensees exist in neerly every major city, as do NBC, ABC etc affiliates. They harken back to an era of something called "broadcast station networks" in which local stations in different cities formed federations to share programming production costs. this system arose in the 1940s or so I believe. Fox45 and other similar stations are beholden to a broad local audience, albeit skewing older because young people don't watch TV offline much. Fox News on the other hand is a cable TV channel that has nothing to do with those other stations. it was likely founded decades later. the idea that Baltimore would be a "city with a large fox news presence" is so laughable that I really have to imagine you are very young or from somewhere very far from the northeast US. there is also a movie production company you may have heard of called 20th century Fox. it has produced many classics. none of these 3 (and a variety of other companies with the Fox name) have neerly anything to do with each other. I believe it all comes down to licensing the same trademark from each other due to historical mergers, acquisitions, and sales over the last hundred years. The Fox name originated almost a century ago with an ancient early Hollywood company called Fox Films, and later merged with 20th Century something or the other. corporate genealogy is the most monstrously complicated thing you'll ever study so I am sure I mangled many details. this is just what I remember as general common knowledge when and where I grew up. I was born in New Jersey in the 80s for reference. best regards, and enjoy reading more on this topic if it interests you. Wikipedia will be your friend here. Try reading about defunct networks like MBS, UPN, or The WB. or look at the odd Genesis of MSNBC. the MS, a younger reader might be surprised to learn, stands for Microsoft! to be clear I am not criticizing you but rather taking joy in getting to introduce you to a truly complex field of knowledge that you never before realized was right in front of your eyes: the mind bending way corporations and brands with long histories are named. try looking at the corporate genealogy for general electric or IBM or Bayer or the former AOL Time Warner. it's as complex as anything in the software world

millzlane 5y ago

You're not wrong. I've been watching FOX45 for over ten years. I would describe myself as politically moderate. And I've noticed this trend also. The Fox45 morning news show is filled with the cognitive biases you mentioned and a paid advertisements disguised as news stories. After the news there usually a segment from their FOX news affiliates and it comes with the crazy opinion based news. There is never a point from the "other side" Like with something like PBS where they have one person from each side of the argument tell their story. The news story about the Mosby's tax issue from months ago that has been resolved. They still report on it everyday. And if they don't report on that story. There will be some guy who got off on a legal technicality or because he was searched illegally without a warrant and it's somehow Mosby or her husbands fault. They always find a way to mention mosby's name but only in the negative. The recent news story about the schools is suppose to make you hate Baltimore city school officials and show how ineffective or wasteful with their spending they are. Even go as to far to show some dumbass parents on there like "I don't know why he's failing" even though they don't help the kid at all with schoolwork. Fox45 has spent all their efforts investigating the school administration when they should be interviewing kids. I bet they would never tell the story about how at Patterson high school truancy was such an issue they had hall monitors, who the student colloquied called bouncers. The bouncers job was to make sure kids were actually going to class. But it was often you'd see them bolting after a student and tackle them like a running back only to drag him back into the school to serve out the rest of his sentence for the day. Or how they swtiched to taking Scan-tron roll calls at every period because kids would leave the school after homeroom where attendance was taken originally.