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> in Spain, where you can get xtc, heroine and coke everywhere (not legal, but ish...) I am from Spain. What are you talking about? Everything you just listed

by axxto 5y ago

> in Spain, where you can get xtc, heroine and coke everywhere (not legal, but ish...) I am from Spain. What are you talking about? Everything you just listed is not only illegal, but very illegal, considered hard drugs by the vast majority of the population, and will get you jail time if you're trafficking or even just possessing low quantities of it if you have previous legal convictions (not even drug related ones, any previous convictions!). And you can get them "everywhere"? lol I am often amazed with the matter-of-fact tone that is frequently used on this site to speak about certain topics while being 100% wrong about them. The scary thing is, if I wasn't from Spain, I might've read your post and believed it. Makes me wonder.

tluyben2 5y ago
It is not legal for the dealer but for the user it is semi legal. At least here in the south you only get arrested if you deal. With whatever drug. I never mentioned you could deal it or that it was legal. But you can get harddrugs in any bar here and the guardia knows it. If you start dealing larger amount you have an issue but that is not what I said... Andalusia: it is really common and the guardia only arrests when there are dealers. Spain is big so I apologize for being too broad. Where are you from because I did not see a difference in Madrid or Barcelona : it is illegal to have or deal but use is tolerated? You do not have this impression? I am definitely not talking about dealing. While I think every country should as it will kill the money incentive.
- axxto 5y ago
  Using drugs in public is not tolerated at all, and it doesn't matter whether you're in Madrid or Barcelona or anywhere else in the country. I am frankly tired of explaining this, and I don't know where this notion comes from that drugs are socially tolerated in Spain; I'm guessing from some kind of ignorant association with our neighbors of Portugal, where, by the way, drugs are decriminalized, not semi-legal. Decriminalized means you won't get put in jail for personal-use possession, full stop. And personal-use means very low quantities, comically low in most cases. You will go to jail for dealing, and for possessing any quantities above a threshold of purity (you read that right: they do test the purity of hard drugs even for street-possession charges, and will slap you with a harder charge when the results come back). Nevermind that 90% of regular citizens find drugs very disturbing and will call the cops and treat you as a degenerate junkie the moment they even think that you might be on drugs, especially if you're a foreigner and you're outside a tourist-trap nightlife district. Spain, or our neighbors in Portugal, it doesn't matter: you do something supposedly "light" and "tolerated" like smoking weed on the street, and the police will impose a hefty fine between €400 and €1200 (a person's whole salary in many cases), depending on the circumstances. It's the law. It goes without saying that they will confiscate everything. On top of that, if you're a foreigner/tourist and they think you're flaunting your drug usage or simply assume that you just don't give a damn about learning the law of the place you're visiting, they will put your ignorant ass in jail for the night on any charge they like, just for the annoyance. Like that. And then you can talk that 'but it's tolerated!' nonsense on your way to the back of a police van. And then, if still feel like getting smart with them, they'll bring you back to your senses. With a slap across the face, follow by an obstruction of justice charge. And you'll still go in the damn police van. Take it from me, who's grown up here and have been living here for 30 years, or take your risk with taking idiotic internet tourist assumptions for granted. I strongly advise you to do the former, but as we say here: you're free to do as you please, and so is the police.
coldtea 5y ago
>And you can get them "everywhere"? lol You think otherwise? Lol. This is like a choir boy arguing weed is hard to find and "nobody they know does it".
- axxto 5y ago
  Or like an arrogant anglonerd who's been sold too much caffeinated baking soda and rastrojos in tourist traps for his own good. By the way, did your Prince Of Logic & Facts x-ray vision see that the parent post spoke specifically of "xtc, heroine and coke"? Since drugs are so widespread and you seem so confident: why don't you go get some of these easily obtainable, semi-legal drugs and walk them up to a policeman, see if you're right about the issue or if maybe they semi-put your stupid ass in semi-jail for the semi-night? Please, please record the whole thing, me and my friends always welcome a good laugh. Finally, a PSA: there are so, so many jokes about anglo tourists in Spain (I'm a native), and for some reason, a huge percentage of them are specifically about 'adventurers' who have 'seen the world' and 'know where the good stuff is'. Go figure lmfao.

by axxto 5y ago

tluyben2 5y ago

It is not legal for the dealer but for the user it is semi legal. At least here in the south you only get arrested if you deal. With whatever drug. I never mentioned you could deal it or that it was legal. But you can get harddrugs in any bar here and the guardia knows it. If you start dealing larger amount you have an issue but that is not what I said... Andalusia: it is really common and the guardia only arrests when there are dealers. Spain is big so I apologize for being too broad. Where are you from because I did not see a difference in Madrid or Barcelona : it is illegal to have or deal but use is tolerated? You do not have this impression? I am definitely not talking about dealing. While I think every country should as it will kill the money incentive.

axxto 5y ago
Using drugs in public is not tolerated at all, and it doesn't matter whether you're in Madrid or Barcelona or anywhere else in the country. I am frankly tired of explaining this, and I don't know where this notion comes from that drugs are socially tolerated in Spain; I'm guessing from some kind of ignorant association with our neighbors of Portugal, where, by the way, drugs are decriminalized, not semi-legal. Decriminalized means you won't get put in jail for personal-use possession, full stop. And personal-use means very low quantities, comically low in most cases. You will go to jail for dealing, and for possessing any quantities above a threshold of purity (you read that right: they do test the purity of hard drugs even for street-possession charges, and will slap you with a harder charge when the results come back). Nevermind that 90% of regular citizens find drugs very disturbing and will call the cops and treat you as a degenerate junkie the moment they even think that you might be on drugs, especially if you're a foreigner and you're outside a tourist-trap nightlife district. Spain, or our neighbors in Portugal, it doesn't matter: you do something supposedly "light" and "tolerated" like smoking weed on the street, and the police will impose a hefty fine between €400 and €1200 (a person's whole salary in many cases), depending on the circumstances. It's the law. It goes without saying that they will confiscate everything. On top of that, if you're a foreigner/tourist and they think you're flaunting your drug usage or simply assume that you just don't give a damn about learning the law of the place you're visiting, they will put your ignorant ass in jail for the night on any charge they like, just for the annoyance. Like that. And then you can talk that 'but it's tolerated!' nonsense on your way to the back of a police van. And then, if still feel like getting smart with them, they'll bring you back to your senses. With a slap across the face, follow by an obstruction of justice charge. And you'll still go in the damn police van. Take it from me, who's grown up here and have been living here for 30 years, or take your risk with taking idiotic internet tourist assumptions for granted. I strongly advise you to do the former, but as we say here: you're free to do as you please, and so is the police.

coldtea 5y ago

>And you can get them "everywhere"? lol You think otherwise? Lol. This is like a choir boy arguing weed is hard to find and "nobody they know does it".

axxto 5y ago
Or like an arrogant anglonerd who's been sold too much caffeinated baking soda and rastrojos in tourist traps for his own good. By the way, did your Prince Of Logic & Facts x-ray vision see that the parent post spoke specifically of "xtc, heroine and coke"? Since drugs are so widespread and you seem so confident: why don't you go get some of these easily obtainable, semi-legal drugs and walk them up to a policeman, see if you're right about the issue or if maybe they semi-put your stupid ass in semi-jail for the semi-night? Please, please record the whole thing, me and my friends always welcome a good laugh. Finally, a PSA: there are so, so many jokes about anglo tourists in Spain (I'm a native), and for some reason, a huge percentage of them are specifically about 'adventurers' who have 'seen the world' and 'know where the good stuff is'. Go figure lmfao.