> $30k isn't cheap imo, the average person would need to take out a loan to go buy an EV. $30K is cheaper than the average new car being sold right now by quit

> $30k isn't cheap imo, the average person would need to take out a loan to go buy an EV. $30K is cheaper than the average new car being sold right now by quite a bit, and most consumers get a loan to buy those. It seems more than a little bit strange to complain about a $30K EV being expensive when the average new car buyer is taking out a $40K loan for a gasoline car. > Outside of big cities infrastructure doesn't exist. Outside the big cities everyone has a garage. People also regularly overestimate how much they drive. The average American drives about 30 miles a day, you need to be in the top 1-2% of daily drivers[0] for range to be an issue, especially if you can charge at work. > Also hauling stuff in an EV, which is where most of the emissions are, isn't even close to feasible yet. Bulk freight by road is a stupid way to organize a society. Don't make semi-trucks green, use trains. They're far more efficient, have cheaper and longer lasting infrastructure, and are trivial electrify. Semi truck transit represents a massive handout to the semi truck industry in the form of unpaid road maintenance[1], we should stop that. For smaller inner-city transit, we're getting very close. EV pickup trucks are already coming out, I would expect cargo vans to show up soon. > Maintain maybe... own not really https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs... I said that it was simpler to maintain and you replied with a link about it whether or not it is cheaper. Those are different words that mean different things. Yes, EVs are not yet universally cheaper than ICE cars for all use patterns, but that appears to be almost entirely a factor of the purchase price, which is dropping year over year. EVs are lower maintenance (the link you provided backs this up), and cheaper to operate per mile than gasoline cars (your link also shows this). Given how quickly EVs have dropped in up front purchase price, I think we're really close to EVs being a no-brainer decision for most consumers. > Personally, I have zero desire to sell my gas vehicle which will be perfectly fine for the next 5 years to drop 30k on an EV that won't be able to do as much. I hope gasoline gets expensive enough and EVs get cheap enough to change your mind. 0 - https://www.solarjourneyusa.com/EVdistanceAnalysis.php https://www.solarjourneyusa.com/EVdistanceAnalysis.php 1 - Estimates range from 60 to 120 billion dollars per year. This includes congestion, accidents, and most importantly road damage. The wear that a vehicle causes to a road is proportional to the per-axle weight raised to the fourth power, which means that virtually all damage to public roads are caused by semi trucks and semi trucks alone.