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> Hard pass, I'll take a social contract defined through democracy every time. You can't have a functioning democracy when you have militant organizations supp

by 4r4r4r 5y ago

> Hard pass, I'll take a social contract defined through democracy every time. You can't have a functioning democracy when you have militant organizations suppressing candidates who dare challenge the status quo.

pope_meat 5y ago
You're referring to the armies of lobbyists and SUPER PACs owned by the wealthy, those militant organizations suppressing candidates who dare to challenge the status quo?
- 4r4r4r 5y ago
  The technology of killing someone and making it look like an accident or a suicide reached a state of high art at least 42 years ago. Here is one illustration. http://drnissani.net/mnissani/revolutionarystoolkit/DartGun1975.jpg http://drnissani.net/mnissani/revolutionarystoolkit/DartGun1... The nearby photograph shows the late US Senator Frank Church displaying a Central Institute of Assassinations’ (CIA) dart gun that, depending on the poison used, either causes an immediate heart attack or a belated cancer. According to Congressional 1975 testimony, the gun fires a frozen poison-tipped dart. The tiny dart can penetrate clothing and leaves a barely-visible pin-sized red mark where it enters the victim’s body. In the heart attack version, once in the body, the poison melts, gets absorbed into the bloodstream, and causes cardiac arrest. The poison then denatures quickly, so that a routine autopsy is likely to ascribe the heart attack to natural causes. In passing: Church probably paid for his courage–and for his progressive record–with his life. By 1984, at the early age of 59, he died of . . . cancer. Bob Marley was also likely murdered by oncogenic viruses placed on a nail in his shoe which led to his brain cancer and ultimate collapse a few years later. He was not intimidated when his house was shot up and didn't back down. He too paid the price with his life.
  - Natfan 5y ago
    How exactly would a dart cause cancer? I'm curious.
    - 4r4r4r 5y ago
      Oncogenic viruses on the surface make their way into the blood stream upon skin penetration. Normally you can digest them if you eat them because they denature in the acidic environment of the stomach. Molecular mechanisms of viral oncogenesis in humans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6336458/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6336458/ Poisons such as Oleandrin, which is a toxic cardiac glycoside found in the poisonous plant, oleander (Nerium oleander L.), interferes in some essential processes within the cell, the most important of these being the inhibition of the Na-K ATPase. This protein enables the cell to exchange the cations Na+ and K+ between the intercellular and extracellular spaces by which, for instance, electric signaling is made possible in nerve cells. Oleandrin binds to specific amino acids in the protein, causing it to lose its function. After depolarization of the cell in which Na+ flows into the cell, the Na+ cannot be transported back into the extracellular membrane, causing the sodium gradient to disappear.
      - goatlover 5y ago
        Sounds like a really long and uncertain way to assassinate someone.

by 4r4r4r 5y ago

pope_meat 5y ago

You're referring to the armies of lobbyists and SUPER PACs owned by the wealthy, those militant organizations suppressing candidates who dare to challenge the status quo?

4r4r4r 5y ago
The technology of killing someone and making it look like an accident or a suicide reached a state of high art at least 42 years ago. Here is one illustration. http://drnissani.net/mnissani/revolutionarystoolkit/DartGun1975.jpg http://drnissani.net/mnissani/revolutionarystoolkit/DartGun1... The nearby photograph shows the late US Senator Frank Church displaying a Central Institute of Assassinations’ (CIA) dart gun that, depending on the poison used, either causes an immediate heart attack or a belated cancer. According to Congressional 1975 testimony, the gun fires a frozen poison-tipped dart. The tiny dart can penetrate clothing and leaves a barely-visible pin-sized red mark where it enters the victim’s body. In the heart attack version, once in the body, the poison melts, gets absorbed into the bloodstream, and causes cardiac arrest. The poison then denatures quickly, so that a routine autopsy is likely to ascribe the heart attack to natural causes. In passing: Church probably paid for his courage–and for his progressive record–with his life. By 1984, at the early age of 59, he died of . . . cancer. Bob Marley was also likely murdered by oncogenic viruses placed on a nail in his shoe which led to his brain cancer and ultimate collapse a few years later. He was not intimidated when his house was shot up and didn't back down. He too paid the price with his life.
- Natfan 5y ago
  How exactly would a dart cause cancer? I'm curious.
  - 4r4r4r 5y ago
    Oncogenic viruses on the surface make their way into the blood stream upon skin penetration. Normally you can digest them if you eat them because they denature in the acidic environment of the stomach. Molecular mechanisms of viral oncogenesis in humans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6336458/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6336458/ Poisons such as Oleandrin, which is a toxic cardiac glycoside found in the poisonous plant, oleander (Nerium oleander L.), interferes in some essential processes within the cell, the most important of these being the inhibition of the Na-K ATPase. This protein enables the cell to exchange the cations Na+ and K+ between the intercellular and extracellular spaces by which, for instance, electric signaling is made possible in nerve cells. Oleandrin binds to specific amino acids in the protein, causing it to lose its function. After depolarization of the cell in which Na+ flows into the cell, the Na+ cannot be transported back into the extracellular membrane, causing the sodium gradient to disappear.
    - goatlover 5y ago
      Sounds like a really long and uncertain way to assassinate someone.