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Alright HN, so what is the end game here? I'm sure some of you have some experience working in the "ad supported" space, and obviously most of the internet and

Alright HN, so what is the end game here? I'm sure some of you have some experience working in the "ad supported" space, and obviously most of the internet and many of its services run on the ad model. So where are we going to end up if there is a full on public distrust of the current ad model?

JohnFen 5y ago
With a different ad model. It wasn't really that long ago when it wasn't possible for ad companies to engage in such widespread spying -- but ad-supported things existed nonetheless. It's not like nobody knows how to do this correctly.
barnabee 5y ago
Hopefully purely ad supported services cease to exist. I never understood why these companies don't offer paid options with no ads or tracking, at least in adddition to the ad supported "free" version.
- tempestn 5y ago
  Short answer is that so few people are willing to pay for that, it's generally not worth the time. (Unless there are other premium features you can add as well, without completely hamstringing your free version.)
rchaud 5y ago
We go back to the stone age. Me make product ('content'). You want product. You pay money. Patreon, paid newsletters and paid news subscriptions are all mature industries now. Why do we act like the sky's going to fall if the spigot of useless memes, influencer primping and political propaganda gets turned off?
- celestialcheese 5y ago
  Wait. Influencer pimping is going to get significantly worse in a "3rd party tracking-free" world. Coupon codes and "link in bio" are one of the few channels that aren't affected by this.
  - rchaud 5y ago
    Influencers have direct deals from sponsors, so the sponsors are less reliant on FB's ad-targeting capabilities. Influencers get their own vanity URLs with discounts and tracking attached, so attribution is no issue, beyond the friction of the extra 'link in bio' step. It'll be recorded accurately whether or not the vendor's site has the Facebook Pixel installed.
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JohnFen 5y ago

With a different ad model. It wasn't really that long ago when it wasn't possible for ad companies to engage in such widespread spying -- but ad-supported things existed nonetheless. It's not like nobody knows how to do this correctly.

barnabee 5y ago

Hopefully purely ad supported services cease to exist. I never understood why these companies don't offer paid options with no ads or tracking, at least in adddition to the ad supported "free" version.

tempestn 5y ago
Short answer is that so few people are willing to pay for that, it's generally not worth the time. (Unless there are other premium features you can add as well, without completely hamstringing your free version.)

rchaud 5y ago

We go back to the stone age. Me make product ('content'). You want product. You pay money. Patreon, paid newsletters and paid news subscriptions are all mature industries now. Why do we act like the sky's going to fall if the spigot of useless memes, influencer primping and political propaganda gets turned off?

celestialcheese 5y ago
Wait. Influencer pimping is going to get significantly worse in a "3rd party tracking-free" world. Coupon codes and "link in bio" are one of the few channels that aren't affected by this.
- rchaud 5y ago
  Influencers have direct deals from sponsors, so the sponsors are less reliant on FB's ad-targeting capabilities. Influencers get their own vanity URLs with discounts and tracking attached, so attribution is no issue, beyond the friction of the extra 'link in bio' step. It'll be recorded accurately whether or not the vendor's site has the Facebook Pixel installed.
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