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I am not aware of pushers and a drug problem among school age childeren in Groningen, do you happen to have sources? I can't remember a single article from the

I am not aware of pushers and a drug problem among school age childeren in Groningen, do you happen to have sources? I can't remember a single article from the local paper. The biggest issue discussed in Groningen is lachgas ( nitrous oxide ). And alcohol. The drug problems from the 70's and 80's were mostly heroine, not seen as a problem anymore as most of the users have died out.

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jacquesm 5y ago
You seem to be blisfully unaware of the world around you and have a set of opinions that is based on that limited experience. That's fine with me. Having lived in Drenthe (Exloo), Groningen, Amsterdam, Kortenhoef, Baarn, IJmuiden and probably a couple I forgot my personal take on this is that if your life has not been touched by the drug trade in NL that you should consider yourself charmed. Lachgas is a problem, but a very minor one in comparison to harder drugs, alcohol has been a problem for a lot longer than either harder drugs or soft drugs. Unfortunately Groningen is not an exception to any of this. As for sources, here is one: https://www.harendekrant.nl/nieuws/drugsdealer-learen-lees-meer/ https://www.harendekrant.nl/nieuws/drugsdealer-learen-lees-m... and I'm sure you'll find a reason to disqualify it but there is far more than this single article.
- the-dude 5y ago
  I am living in Groningen center now for 10 years ( grew up in Haren ), your source is from 2015 and as far as I know, is not an incident as part of a broader problem of drug pushers to school going children. What should I google to find the 'far more' ? If I google 'drugs school groningen', I come up empty. If I google 'dealer school groningen', I come up with one article from 2017, minor incident, and best of all : that was my school. So were can I find far more?
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    I said I'm sure you will find fault with it. Predictable. Those 'minor incidents' are two a penny. Even at the better schools kids regularly use drugs. If you don't know about it or don't want to know about it then maybe stop extrapolating from your limited experience to the rest of NL. And good luck when/if you have kids in school, watch out from round about the age of 11.
    - the-dude 5y ago
      > stop extrapolating from your limited experience That is just a baseless assumption on your part : I lived for extended periods in other cities. I know some parents with children here, the subject has never come up. I don't recognize your characterization of the problem at all. Maybe you should stop projecting your views on a city you apparently know little about?
      - jacquesm 5y ago
        FWIW I have lived in Oudezijl, near Nieuweschans, have a son who lived in Groningen, Middelstum, Ter Apelkanaal and Beerta. What you personally have not experienced has no bearing on my own experiences, even if the localities overlap. Consider that the world is larger than your personal slice of it and that those things that do not happen in your slice in fact do happen. The drug trade in Groningen is alive and well, you can take that to the bank. And if you still don't believe it then maybe have a chat with some LE and see where that takes you.
        the-dude 5y ago
        You are moving goalposts : drug trade is something else than pushing drugs to children. Of course there is drugs trade, I have never disputed that.
        jacquesm 5y ago
        Drugs are pushed to children, and there is drug trade. They both happen. And if you think that the first is happening out in the open then you're mistaken, it's pretty subtle, typically schoolmates who have been made part of the trade and who are asked to scout out likely takers. https://nos.nl/artikel/2326997-pillen-laten-rondgaan-in-een-etui-drugs-dealen-op-de-middelbare-school https://nos.nl/artikel/2326997-pillen-laten-rondgaan-in-een-...

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jacquesm 5y ago

You seem to be blisfully unaware of the world around you and have a set of opinions that is based on that limited experience. That's fine with me. Having lived in Drenthe (Exloo), Groningen, Amsterdam, Kortenhoef, Baarn, IJmuiden and probably a couple I forgot my personal take on this is that if your life has not been touched by the drug trade in NL that you should consider yourself charmed. Lachgas is a problem, but a very minor one in comparison to harder drugs, alcohol has been a problem for a lot longer than either harder drugs or soft drugs. Unfortunately Groningen is not an exception to any of this. As for sources, here is one: https://www.harendekrant.nl/nieuws/drugsdealer-learen-lees-meer/ https://www.harendekrant.nl/nieuws/drugsdealer-learen-lees-m... and I'm sure you'll find a reason to disqualify it but there is far more than this single article.

the-dude 5y ago
I am living in Groningen center now for 10 years ( grew up in Haren ), your source is from 2015 and as far as I know, is not an incident as part of a broader problem of drug pushers to school going children. What should I google to find the 'far more' ? If I google 'drugs school groningen', I come up empty. If I google 'dealer school groningen', I come up with one article from 2017, minor incident, and best of all : that was my school. So were can I find far more?
- jacquesm 5y ago
  I said I'm sure you will find fault with it. Predictable. Those 'minor incidents' are two a penny. Even at the better schools kids regularly use drugs. If you don't know about it or don't want to know about it then maybe stop extrapolating from your limited experience to the rest of NL. And good luck when/if you have kids in school, watch out from round about the age of 11.
  - the-dude 5y ago
    > stop extrapolating from your limited experience That is just a baseless assumption on your part : I lived for extended periods in other cities. I know some parents with children here, the subject has never come up. I don't recognize your characterization of the problem at all. Maybe you should stop projecting your views on a city you apparently know little about?
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      FWIW I have lived in Oudezijl, near Nieuweschans, have a son who lived in Groningen, Middelstum, Ter Apelkanaal and Beerta. What you personally have not experienced has no bearing on my own experiences, even if the localities overlap. Consider that the world is larger than your personal slice of it and that those things that do not happen in your slice in fact do happen. The drug trade in Groningen is alive and well, you can take that to the bank. And if you still don't believe it then maybe have a chat with some LE and see where that takes you.
      - the-dude 5y ago
        You are moving goalposts : drug trade is something else than pushing drugs to children. Of course there is drugs trade, I have never disputed that.
        jacquesm 5y ago
        Drugs are pushed to children, and there is drug trade. They both happen. And if you think that the first is happening out in the open then you're mistaken, it's pretty subtle, typically schoolmates who have been made part of the trade and who are asked to scout out likely takers. https://nos.nl/artikel/2326997-pillen-laten-rondgaan-in-een-etui-drugs-dealen-op-de-middelbare-school https://nos.nl/artikel/2326997-pillen-laten-rondgaan-in-een-...