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Ah yes, the famous walled garden of Android. What?

josephcsible 5y ago
Not every Android phone can be rooted, and a lot of people don't root even if they can. Without rooting, there's way, way more friction every time you want to install or update an app from outside the Play Store. It's better than iOS, sure, but that's not saying much.
adar 5y ago
What else would you call the Play Store on which the vast, vast majority of Android users acquire apps? Please don't bring up F-Droid or the Amazon App Store as alternatives, that's just a joke compared to the sheer volume of app installs (and more importantly, purchases) on the Play Store.
- breakfastduck 5y ago
  Just because alternatives are not as popular as the default store does not make it anywhere close to being a walled garden. I'm not sure you understand what the term means.
heavyset_go 5y ago
Like Apple, Google also mandates that apps distributed via the Play Store must use Google's payment system[1], and give Google a 15% to 30% cut of revenue: > Developers charging for apps and downloads from Google Play must use Google Play's billing system as the method of payment. Google prevents mobile app distribution competitors from competing with the Play Store on feature parity because user installable 3rd party mobile app stores cannot implement automatic upgrades, background installation of apps, or batch installs of apps like the Play Store can. If the user tries to install an app on their own, they're shown scary warnings and must adjust arcane settings, but if they use Google's Play Store, no scary warnings are shown and no settings need to be adjusted. They're told they're "protected" by Play Protect, but aren't shown scary warnings about the fact that the Play Store is the main distribution method for malware on Android[2] when they go to install apps with it. That sounds like a walled garden to me. [1] https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9858738?hl=en https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ... [2] https://www.zdnet.com/article/play-store-identified-as-main-distribution-vector-for-most-android-malware/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/play-store-identified-as-main-...
- breakfastduck 5y ago
  I don't think you understand what a walled garden is. There's a default store, sure. But there's literally nothing preventing you using a 3rd party store or even installing apks directly on the device.

Not every Android phone can be rooted, and a lot of people don't root even if they can. Without rooting, there's way, way more friction every time you want to install or update an app from outside the Play Store. It's better than iOS, sure, but that's not saying much.

adar 5y ago

What else would you call the Play Store on which the vast, vast majority of Android users acquire apps? Please don't bring up F-Droid or the Amazon App Store as alternatives, that's just a joke compared to the sheer volume of app installs (and more importantly, purchases) on the Play Store.

breakfastduck 5y ago
Just because alternatives are not as popular as the default store does not make it anywhere close to being a walled garden. I'm not sure you understand what the term means.

heavyset_go 5y ago

Like Apple, Google also mandates that apps distributed via the Play Store must use Google's payment system[1], and give Google a 15% to 30% cut of revenue: > Developers charging for apps and downloads from Google Play must use Google Play's billing system as the method of payment. Google prevents mobile app distribution competitors from competing with the Play Store on feature parity because user installable 3rd party mobile app stores cannot implement automatic upgrades, background installation of apps, or batch installs of apps like the Play Store can. If the user tries to install an app on their own, they're shown scary warnings and must adjust arcane settings, but if they use Google's Play Store, no scary warnings are shown and no settings need to be adjusted. They're told they're "protected" by Play Protect, but aren't shown scary warnings about the fact that the Play Store is the main distribution method for malware on Android[2] when they go to install apps with it. That sounds like a walled garden to me. [1] https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9858738?hl=en https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ... [2] https://www.zdnet.com/article/play-store-identified-as-main-distribution-vector-for-most-android-malware/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/play-store-identified-as-main-...

breakfastduck 5y ago
I don't think you understand what a walled garden is. There's a default store, sure. But there's literally nothing preventing you using a 3rd party store or even installing apks directly on the device.