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>That sense of entitlement makes me sick. No. It is in fact your sense of entitlement that makes us sick. Update: ok, after checking danbruc's comment history
by layoutIfNeeded 5y ago
>That sense of entitlement makes me sick.
No. It is in fact your sense of entitlement that makes us sick.
Update: ok, after checking danbruc's comment history, they probably weren't arguing for tracking, and the second paragraph should be read in third person... I'll take my downvotes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- b3kart 5y agoSense of entitlement for…privacy? What a world we live in.
- crazy1van 5y agoI prefer privacy too. But there is something entitled about wanting to interact with a company but keep the details of that interaction secret from that same company.
- layoutIfNeeded 5y agoWhat? OP was arguing that tracking is necessary...
- zinekeller 5y ago> If your business success relies on tracking everyone all the time, then you have no fucking business and should go out of business. You haven't read the whole thing.
- jvzr 5y agoI think you misread OP. Paragraphs 1 & 3 are OP talking, paragraph 2 is "advertisers" talking.
- layoutIfNeeded 5y agoTrue. I've updated my comment...
- ako 5y agoThat sense of entitlement that you can get stuff for free without having to pay for it in some way. You use facebook for free, it seems to provide you some value, why do you think you are entitled to get this for free?
- danbruc 5y agoI am not getting it for free, I am already paying for it with my share of the ad budget included in all the products I buy. And I am not asking for anything to be for free, just allow me to pay for it.
- intev 5y agoThis is such convoluted reasoning and you keep mentioning it. For example I could say: "I don't want to pay the road toll, I pay for it with the gas tax I pay" or "I don't want to pay for Disneyland, I pay for it with all the things I buy inside". Technically Disney could make entrance free and charge ridiculous rates for everything inside but I'm certain that makes theme parks significantly less viable as a business - maybe even straight up unprofitable.
- danbruc 5y agoWhat is convoluted about that? I buy a product, some fraction of the profit goes into the marketing budget, some fraction of the marketing budget goes to Facebook. How am I not paying for using Facebook? Where does their revenue come from if not from me?
- intev 5y agoTake my Disney example. All what you said applies to that example too. Where does their revenue come if not from you? They could make entrance free and make money on what you buy inside. In fact, you can go further with this. You should not pay for any government services other than taxes. Where does the government revenue come if not from you? Why should they charge for things like drivers license renewals. Everything should be free and come from your taxes... What's convoluted about your argument is you are asking the service provider to change their business model by pointing our somewhere along the chain they are making money from you so they should be happy. Changing business models might also mean completely changing the way they provide the service. The whole service might have evolved differently if this model was enforced from the beginning rather than suddenly springing it on them now and then saying "make money in a way that's more convenient for me, I don't like how you make money now". Their business model, leaving aside the ethics/merits, is pretty simple. They offer targeted users on a platter to advertisers. It's easy to package up and sell. Suddenly that's being taken away. Of course they will kick and scream because they've depended on this predictable money making model. Saying "I buy things so you make money" doesn't even make sense. They become no different to a billboard provider.