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These reality-denying identity politics followers are just as dangerous as the corporations pushing surveillance. The author lost me when they stared talking ab

These reality-denying identity politics followers are just as dangerous as the corporations pushing surveillance. The author lost me when they stared talking about trans people being more affected by surveillance than others. It would be smart to let them battle it out first, if they oppose it too. Like the US waited for the Soviet Union to get seriously wounded before taking on the Nazis, because both were a threat.

emptyparadise 5y ago
Acknowledging the existence of trans people is not identity politics.
- captainredbeard 5y ago
  Every person who is trans deserves humane treatment. That said, what they are demanding is celebration and equation with “good as normal”. Unfortunately that’s not true, it’s a serious health problem that we should steer folks out of if at all possible.
- trompetenaccoun 5y ago
  Nice strawman, only problem is that I wrote nothing of the sorts.
- andrepd 5y ago
  They are not "acknowledging the existence of trans people", they are shoehorning it into every unrelated discussion, in a manner that does both causes a disservice.
redstone_tech 5y ago
The irony is that by supporting trans-rights they are actually doing people who identify as trans a disservice. There are a lot of documented problems with hormone blockers being miss-used, horror stories from gender re-assignment surgeries and (miss-)identification of little kids as trans. You support these people by helping them feel comfortable with their own biology, not with butchery! But I digress. We shouldn't let people with these sorts of agendas dominate the discussion on such serious topics, we don't need another stripe on the LGBT flag to signify anti-surveillance. LGBT, trans-activism, feminism, etc. etc. are, and should remain disjoint from the fight against surveillance. If we start mixing in leftist-politics into the discussion we are weakening it by pushing away people who are not left-leaning or not in support of LGBT. By leaving anti-surveillance and pro-privacy activism pure and undiluted from left-right politics, we will have a greater ability to educate the masses.

emptyparadise 5y ago

Acknowledging the existence of trans people is not identity politics.

captainredbeard 5y ago
Every person who is trans deserves humane treatment. That said, what they are demanding is celebration and equation with “good as normal”. Unfortunately that’s not true, it’s a serious health problem that we should steer folks out of if at all possible.
trompetenaccoun 5y ago
Nice strawman, only problem is that I wrote nothing of the sorts.
andrepd 5y ago
They are not "acknowledging the existence of trans people", they are shoehorning it into every unrelated discussion, in a manner that does both causes a disservice.

redstone_tech 5y ago

The irony is that by supporting trans-rights they are actually doing people who identify as trans a disservice. There are a lot of documented problems with hormone blockers being miss-used, horror stories from gender re-assignment surgeries and (miss-)identification of little kids as trans. You support these people by helping them feel comfortable with their own biology, not with butchery! But I digress. We shouldn't let people with these sorts of agendas dominate the discussion on such serious topics, we don't need another stripe on the LGBT flag to signify anti-surveillance. LGBT, trans-activism, feminism, etc. etc. are, and should remain disjoint from the fight against surveillance. If we start mixing in leftist-politics into the discussion we are weakening it by pushing away people who are not left-leaning or not in support of LGBT. By leaving anti-surveillance and pro-privacy activism pure and undiluted from left-right politics, we will have a greater ability to educate the masses.