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“Fine, I’ll take my knowledge and business to China” “Okay, okay we’re sorry, Mr. Musk”

by jimbob45 5y ago

giarc 5y ago
SpaceX biggest customer is the US government. You really think the US gov will ship satellites to China for launches?
- justapassenger 5y ago
  This. Spacex, while private and agile company, exists purely because of USA government buying their services - that’s majority of their revenue. There’s nothing wrong with that, being government contractor is a huge part of an economy.
  - deregulateMed 5y ago
    >There’s nothing wrong with that The military industrial complex, crony capitalism, and siphoning tax dollars to billionaires are definitely debatable topics.
avmich 5y ago
Yeah, Elon's just dying to follow Jack Ma lead. /s
- fridif 5y ago
  Jack Ma's only mistake was residing in China.
  - pm90 5y ago
    Considering the source of all of his wealth is in China, it would be pretty difficult for him to not reside there and continue to be wealthy.
    - fridif 5y ago
      Seems like Gabe Newell is doing fine in New Zealand, the sons of Gaddafi in Germany, Depardieu in Russia....
nostrademons 5y ago
Would probably just declare himself his own country. Just needs his own currency (wait, didn't he do that already?), own military (it's handy to own a fleet of ICBMs with better guidance systems than anything the U.S. has), and own energy infrastructure.
- science4sail 5y ago
  He'd still need to buy/steal/conquer some territory. Plenty of terra nullius on Mars though.
  - nostrademons 5y ago
    Maybe that's been his plan all along.
  - nickik 5y ago
    If only he had oil platforms.
- avmich 5y ago
  Not currency, military and energy country constitute. People do.
  - nostrademons 5y ago
    Wouldn't be surprised if Musk would be happy ruling over a country with no people. Just robots who idolize him as their creator.
bryanlarsen 5y ago
Rockets are considered munitions under ITAR. Following through on that threat would result in serious jail time.
- meepmorp 5y ago
  Yeah, they're missiles. It's not even a particularly close call as export control regulations go.
fma 5y ago
LOL, pretty sure Musk is more scared of the Chinese government than the US government. I've never seen Tesla/Musk apologize for anything, except when it comes to China. If Musk wants to be able to open his mouth with his opinions he'd be better to stay in the US. "Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) came under increased pressure in China on Wednesday from regulators and state media after Monday's protest by a disgruntled customer at the Shanghai auto show went viral and forced the electric car maker into a rare apology." https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/china-market-regulator-urges-tesla-ensure-product-quality-china-2021-04-21/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/china-... And lets not forget when he was accused by the Chinese government on having his vehicles spy in China and how he had to grovel to not get shutdown.
- nickik 5y ago
  Mostly nonsense. First of all Tesla has no sued the people that made false claim and its mostly about social media not the government. A few bureaucrats from specific regions made some comments but nothing series. Also, about the 'spying thing' this was reasonably thing by the government not to allow Tesla in military bases in China, this is no different then things like IPhones not being allowed there. There was never concern that they would 'shutdown' Tesla. Tesla has great support from the city and location they are in and pretty good relationship with the central government. If anything, Tesla has most problems with German environmental (anti progress) groups and the bureaucracy there.
mlindner 5y ago
FAA already granted permission to SpaceX to build the tower. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=474570805&row=115 https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action...

“Fine, I’ll take my knowledge and business to China” “Okay, okay we’re sorry, Mr. Musk”

giarc 5y ago

SpaceX biggest customer is the US government. You really think the US gov will ship satellites to China for launches?

justapassenger 5y ago
This. Spacex, while private and agile company, exists purely because of USA government buying their services - that’s majority of their revenue. There’s nothing wrong with that, being government contractor is a huge part of an economy.
- deregulateMed 5y ago
  >There’s nothing wrong with that The military industrial complex, crony capitalism, and siphoning tax dollars to billionaires are definitely debatable topics.

avmich 5y ago

Yeah, Elon's just dying to follow Jack Ma lead. /s

fridif 5y ago
Jack Ma's only mistake was residing in China.
- pm90 5y ago
  Considering the source of all of his wealth is in China, it would be pretty difficult for him to not reside there and continue to be wealthy.
  - fridif 5y ago
    Seems like Gabe Newell is doing fine in New Zealand, the sons of Gaddafi in Germany, Depardieu in Russia....

nostrademons 5y ago

Would probably just declare himself his own country. Just needs his own currency (wait, didn't he do that already?), own military (it's handy to own a fleet of ICBMs with better guidance systems than anything the U.S. has), and own energy infrastructure.

science4sail 5y ago
He'd still need to buy/steal/conquer some territory. Plenty of terra nullius on Mars though.
- nostrademons 5y ago
  Maybe that's been his plan all along.
- nickik 5y ago
  If only he had oil platforms.
avmich 5y ago
Not currency, military and energy country constitute. People do.
- nostrademons 5y ago
  Wouldn't be surprised if Musk would be happy ruling over a country with no people. Just robots who idolize him as their creator.

bryanlarsen 5y ago

Rockets are considered munitions under ITAR. Following through on that threat would result in serious jail time.

meepmorp 5y ago
Yeah, they're missiles. It's not even a particularly close call as export control regulations go.

fma 5y ago

LOL, pretty sure Musk is more scared of the Chinese government than the US government. I've never seen Tesla/Musk apologize for anything, except when it comes to China. If Musk wants to be able to open his mouth with his opinions he'd be better to stay in the US. "Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) came under increased pressure in China on Wednesday from regulators and state media after Monday's protest by a disgruntled customer at the Shanghai auto show went viral and forced the electric car maker into a rare apology." https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/china-market-regulator-urges-tesla-ensure-product-quality-china-2021-04-21/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/china-... And lets not forget when he was accused by the Chinese government on having his vehicles spy in China and how he had to grovel to not get shutdown.

nickik 5y ago
Mostly nonsense. First of all Tesla has no sued the people that made false claim and its mostly about social media not the government. A few bureaucrats from specific regions made some comments but nothing series. Also, about the 'spying thing' this was reasonably thing by the government not to allow Tesla in military bases in China, this is no different then things like IPhones not being allowed there. There was never concern that they would 'shutdown' Tesla. Tesla has great support from the city and location they are in and pretty good relationship with the central government. If anything, Tesla has most problems with German environmental (anti progress) groups and the bureaucracy there.

mlindner 5y ago

FAA already granted permission to SpaceX to build the tower. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=474570805&row=115 https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action...