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"Why I will never pursue cheating again" post taken down

17 points by timf 15y ago

wturner 15y ago
The problem are a lack of cultural and social codes that honestly confront the demarcation between utility and perception in the real world.Everyone who's ever done anything meaningful understands the psychology of bending rules and riding the wave of peoples subjective assumptions, but confronting these kinds of things in a responsible way is still kind of taboo; unless you're a flat out (machiavellian) brat. Those people simply don't give a shit either way :) I loved reading how the author has come to the conclusion that the best action is to simply make assignments where cheating is pointless. Sad his blog got taken down. cached http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zlciYW0MwtIJ:behind-the-enemy-lines.blogspot.com/2011/07/why-i-will-never-pursue-cheating-again.html+Why+i+will+never+persue+cheating+again&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zlciYW0...
- timf 15y ago
  Also, HN discussion of the post: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2774254 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2774254
itg 15y ago
Who would issue a C&D in this case?
- timf 15y ago
  Someone asked him that on Twitter: "let me guess, one of the plagiarists claiming copyright infringement of their answers?" He replies: "You will laugh but yes. Claiming 'violation of privacy' and misappropriation of content generated with specific intent."
- Osiris 15y ago
  Perhaps it was TurnItIn, the product he used to identify the cheaters? I'm curious what the C&D letter claims was illegal about the content of the post; was it the screenshots of the application?
- bugsy 15y ago
  The context suggests it is a copyright violation issue. Most of the excerpts were ones that were already plagiarized and reproducing them is fair use in the context. The only excerpt that wasn't was the student who lied about illness in his family in order to explain the cheating. If we assume that there is cause for the filing, it would have to be that student. It's a big assumption though, it could have also been some other party with no cause.

17 points by timf 15y ago

The problem are a lack of cultural and social codes that honestly confront the demarcation between utility and perception in the real world.Everyone who's ever done anything meaningful understands the psychology of bending rules and riding the wave of peoples subjective assumptions, but confronting these kinds of things in a responsible way is still kind of taboo; unless you're a flat out (machiavellian) brat. Those people simply don't give a shit either way :) I loved reading how the author has come to the conclusion that the best action is to simply make assignments where cheating is pointless. Sad his blog got taken down. cached http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zlciYW0MwtIJ:behind-the-enemy-lines.blogspot.com/2011/07/why-i-will-never-pursue-cheating-again.html+Why+i+will+never+persue+cheating+again&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zlciYW0...

timf 15y ago
Also, HN discussion of the post: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2774254 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2774254

itg 15y ago

Who would issue a C&D in this case?

timf 15y ago
Someone asked him that on Twitter: "let me guess, one of the plagiarists claiming copyright infringement of their answers?" He replies: "You will laugh but yes. Claiming 'violation of privacy' and misappropriation of content generated with specific intent."
Osiris 15y ago
Perhaps it was TurnItIn, the product he used to identify the cheaters? I'm curious what the C&D letter claims was illegal about the content of the post; was it the screenshots of the application?
bugsy 15y ago
The context suggests it is a copyright violation issue. Most of the excerpts were ones that were already plagiarized and reproducing them is fair use in the context. The only excerpt that wasn't was the student who lied about illness in his family in order to explain the cheating. If we assume that there is cause for the filing, it would have to be that student. It's a big assumption though, it could have also been some other party with no cause.