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At first I thought "another RDP solution" but then I saw this line: Windows 365 also creates a new hybrid personal computing category called Cloud PC, which

At first I thought "another RDP solution" but then I saw this line: Windows 365 also creates a new hybrid personal computing category called Cloud PC, which uses both the power of the cloud and the capabilities of the device... Does that mean it makes use of local hardware past the capabilities it would need as a thin client? GPU acceleration, etc? It'll be interesting to find out.

gruez 5y ago
I think you're reading too much into it. Sure, it's possible that they have some sort of RDMA technology that allows you to automagically offload work from your local machine to a cloud GPU/CPU, but I doubt it. My guess is that it'll be something lame like "having a synced workspace (aka onedrive) and being able to edit documents on it locally and have it synced to your cloud workspace"
- sascha_sl 5y ago
  It's probably something like the Teams integration VMWare shipped in Horizon (in collaboration with Microsoft). https://techzone.vmware.com/resource/microsoft-teams-optimization-vmware-horizon https://techzone.vmware.com/resource/microsoft-teams-optimiz...
- donmcronald 5y ago
  Yeah. I wouldn’t be surprised to see cloud auth (AD) so you can pay every month to use the capabilities of your local PC that you already paid for. Buy a PC so you can remote into a crappier cloud PC? Pass. Lol.
okareaman 5y ago
Maybe this will help... What is hybrid cloud? https://www.netapp.com/hybrid-cloud/what-is-hybrid-cloud/ https://www.netapp.com/hybrid-cloud/what-is-hybrid-cloud/
user3939382 5y ago
Windows Server has had something like this for a while, it's called RemoteFX: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX I guess we'll have to wait to see if this is just a rebranding of the same thing or something new.
- resoluteteeth 5y ago
  Doesn't remotefx just render on the server which seems different then what's being described here?
misterbwong 5y ago
According to other sources, Microsoft will reveal Windows 365 pricing on Aug. 2, when the service becomes generally available. Cool to see RDP-ish type capabilities outside of tech circles but will wait until the price is revealed. My guess is that it will still be out of reach for most consumers, unfortunately.
- donmcronald 5y ago
  My guess is $10-20 / month for an anemic VM that runs like a raspberry pi.
  - dstaley 5y ago
    Leaked pricing was $31 USD for 2 CPU cores, 4GB of RAM, and 128GB of storage. It does have 10 Gbps download and 4 Gbps upload though!
    - nacs 5y ago
      > 10 Gbps download and 4 Gbps upload though! That's great but considering most ISPs in the US are still < 100Mbit on the download and cap the upload at something ridiculous like 10Mbit, 10Gbps on the server side isn't going to be much use. Even my workplace caps at around 100Mbps upload meaning uploading a 64GB video off an SD card to my "cloud PC" will take forever.
    - kaetemi 5y ago
      4GB RAM? That gets you a whole 2 browser tabs.
      - speed_spread 5y ago
        Or half an instance of VS Code.
    - tempfs 5y ago
      It's like they've never even used their own browser(Edge/Chrome) or something. 4GB for a Windows OS is hilarious.
ithkuil 5y ago
well, being able to print to a local printer or access a local usb-drive is making use of the "capabilities of the device", and certainly within the grasp of boring good old technologies over RDP
banana_giraffe 5y ago
They must be talking about run of the mill RDP stuff like using USB Redirection, multi-touch support, and so on to make the remote machine feel local.

gruez 5y ago

I think you're reading too much into it. Sure, it's possible that they have some sort of RDMA technology that allows you to automagically offload work from your local machine to a cloud GPU/CPU, but I doubt it. My guess is that it'll be something lame like "having a synced workspace (aka onedrive) and being able to edit documents on it locally and have it synced to your cloud workspace"

sascha_sl 5y ago
It's probably something like the Teams integration VMWare shipped in Horizon (in collaboration with Microsoft). https://techzone.vmware.com/resource/microsoft-teams-optimization-vmware-horizon https://techzone.vmware.com/resource/microsoft-teams-optimiz...
donmcronald 5y ago
Yeah. I wouldn’t be surprised to see cloud auth (AD) so you can pay every month to use the capabilities of your local PC that you already paid for. Buy a PC so you can remote into a crappier cloud PC? Pass. Lol.

okareaman 5y ago

Maybe this will help... What is hybrid cloud? https://www.netapp.com/hybrid-cloud/what-is-hybrid-cloud/ https://www.netapp.com/hybrid-cloud/what-is-hybrid-cloud/

user3939382 5y ago

Windows Server has had something like this for a while, it's called RemoteFX: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX I guess we'll have to wait to see if this is just a rebranding of the same thing or something new.

resoluteteeth 5y ago
Doesn't remotefx just render on the server which seems different then what's being described here?

misterbwong 5y ago

According to other sources, Microsoft will reveal Windows 365 pricing on Aug. 2, when the service becomes generally available. Cool to see RDP-ish type capabilities outside of tech circles but will wait until the price is revealed. My guess is that it will still be out of reach for most consumers, unfortunately.

donmcronald 5y ago
My guess is $10-20 / month for an anemic VM that runs like a raspberry pi.
- dstaley 5y ago
  Leaked pricing was $31 USD for 2 CPU cores, 4GB of RAM, and 128GB of storage. It does have 10 Gbps download and 4 Gbps upload though!
  - nacs 5y ago
    > 10 Gbps download and 4 Gbps upload though! That's great but considering most ISPs in the US are still < 100Mbit on the download and cap the upload at something ridiculous like 10Mbit, 10Gbps on the server side isn't going to be much use. Even my workplace caps at around 100Mbps upload meaning uploading a 64GB video off an SD card to my "cloud PC" will take forever.
  - kaetemi 5y ago
    4GB RAM? That gets you a whole 2 browser tabs.
    - speed_spread 5y ago
      Or half an instance of VS Code.
  - tempfs 5y ago
    It's like they've never even used their own browser(Edge/Chrome) or something. 4GB for a Windows OS is hilarious.

ithkuil 5y ago

well, being able to print to a local printer or access a local usb-drive is making use of the "capabilities of the device", and certainly within the grasp of boring good old technologies over RDP

banana_giraffe 5y ago

They must be talking about run of the mill RDP stuff like using USB Redirection, multi-touch support, and so on to make the remote machine feel local.