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So this is what Microsoft wants the PCs to run that can't run Windows 11. That said, it is a nightmare for privacy, security, and openness. A nightmare for pr
by cmxch 5y ago
So this is what Microsoft wants the PCs to run that can't run Windows 11.
That said, it is a nightmare for privacy, security, and openness.
A nightmare for privacy and security given that they have the data (and likely the means to unlock it).
A nightmare for openness given that data interchange will be discouraged in favor of the walled garden.
- vbezhenar 5y agoIt is technically possible to encrypt VM in a way that even host can't decrypt it. AMD Epyc CPUs supports encrypted memory.
- crvdgc 5y ago> Finally, encryption is used across the board. All managed disks running Cloud PCs are encrypted, all stored data is encrypted at rest, and all network traffic to and from your Cloud PCs is also encrypted. That being said, this level of deep integration means that the moment you boot the cloud PC, all of the data are potentially very vulnerable on the software level.
- ipaddr 5y agoThat's not the audience for this.
- mattowen_uk 5y agoI'm sorry, but I have to challenge this. > A nightmare for privacy and security given that they have the data (and likely the means to unlock it). 365 customers' data is fully encrypted and MS cannot just decrypt it with a click of a button, it is also sharded across multiple storage silos, so that it cannot even be copied out of your tenant unless you are the customer. They also have a 'high encryption' option where the encryption key can be held on-premises and not in any MS data-centre. > A nightmare for openness given that data interchange will be discouraged in favor of the walled garden. I have no idea where you got this idea from, or what you even mean. 365 is a platform. If you want to run Linux VMs in it, you can. If you want to reach out and exchange data with non MS services like other cloud apps outside of 365 (or even on-premises apps) you can. Picture your own personal datacentre full of kit but run by someone else. That is the 365 experience. I'm not someone who drinks the MS Kool-aid, but I do know the facts as I work in a MS partner company. If you'd said something similarly wrong about AWS, I would defend that too.
- tasogare 5y agoMicrosoft can ban your Microsoft account arbitrarily so GP is right, you don't own your data anymore and Microsoft can keep it and forbid you access, regardless of encryption or not.
- ToFab123 5y agoI don't recall every to see a post on HN that Microsoft has terminated access to some ones MS (Business) Account. I am sure someone has got their account terminated I just don't recall ever seeing a post about here.
- Beached 5y agowe have seen plenty for google, Amazon, Facebook. I see no reason to think Microsoft is different. Just because we haven't heard of a case yet, doesn't mean it is not possible or that it will never happen. it's more likely just a matter of time.
- simfoo 5y agoSorry, but I don't think that ANY big player, especially from the US, can/may resist NSA/FBI requests to access customer data. And we know from Snowdens leaks that those requests don't just come for criminal or terrorist cases but are routinely used for economic espionage.
- takinola 5y agoMicrosoft has pretty well documented cases where they do go to court to prevent data from being shared with governments. Of course, they are not always successful, but they do give a good try.