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Imagine being responsible for writing the individual ToS for ever nation on Earth. That sounds hard.

by devoutsalsa 5y ago

AdrianB1 5y ago
Imagine doing business and getting revenue in every nation on the Earth. That sounds hard.
- unishark 5y ago
  There are systems, such as international shipping and financial technology that simplify many of those difficulties for you, at least to the point of making revenue from a great many countries. Complying with the local laws (including paying taxes) is indeed where it gets hard.
josefx 5y ago
They probably didn't bother at all. Not long ago Apple got fined because they implied that they would only provide one year warranty unless you paid for more, in the EU two years are the absolute minimum and telling your customers otherwise is not an option. As far as I could tell they just wrote the US version and translated that for every non English speaking country. Google might also be intentionally lazy, the Google Play licensing terms for example generally fail in front of a court when they are challenged, as they actively violate every law on anti competitive behavior you could think up. Whenever that happens Google just carves out a new licensing region for that courts jurisdiction and keeps the terms unchanged for the remaining world.
- Hamuko 5y ago
  Apple's Finnish warranty conditions still say that they offer a limited one (1) year warranty on their products. However, the warranty terms start with a bolded section about consumer protection laws and how this limited one (1) year warranty is an additional protection offered voluntarily by the manufacturer, and that it does not replace the rights given to consumers by these laws or in fact apply in claims made under consumer protection laws.
anonymousab 5y ago
Many ToS often contain disclaimers all over the place to the effect of "this doesn't apply in cities/states/provinces/countries where the law says otherwise" and catch-alls to that effect. Sometimes that's enough, sometimes not; if the company still tries to enforce rules in a region where they are invalid then the ToS is simply even more meaningless.

Imagine being responsible for writing the individual ToS for ever nation on Earth. That sounds hard.

AdrianB1 5y ago

Imagine doing business and getting revenue in every nation on the Earth. That sounds hard.

unishark 5y ago
There are systems, such as international shipping and financial technology that simplify many of those difficulties for you, at least to the point of making revenue from a great many countries. Complying with the local laws (including paying taxes) is indeed where it gets hard.

josefx 5y ago

They probably didn't bother at all. Not long ago Apple got fined because they implied that they would only provide one year warranty unless you paid for more, in the EU two years are the absolute minimum and telling your customers otherwise is not an option. As far as I could tell they just wrote the US version and translated that for every non English speaking country. Google might also be intentionally lazy, the Google Play licensing terms for example generally fail in front of a court when they are challenged, as they actively violate every law on anti competitive behavior you could think up. Whenever that happens Google just carves out a new licensing region for that courts jurisdiction and keeps the terms unchanged for the remaining world.

Hamuko 5y ago
Apple's Finnish warranty conditions still say that they offer a limited one (1) year warranty on their products. However, the warranty terms start with a bolded section about consumer protection laws and how this limited one (1) year warranty is an additional protection offered voluntarily by the manufacturer, and that it does not replace the rights given to consumers by these laws or in fact apply in claims made under consumer protection laws.

anonymousab 5y ago

Many ToS often contain disclaimers all over the place to the effect of "this doesn't apply in cities/states/provinces/countries where the law says otherwise" and catch-alls to that effect. Sometimes that's enough, sometimes not; if the company still tries to enforce rules in a region where they are invalid then the ToS is simply even more meaningless.