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Is this a reference to Amazon being disproportionately Indian?

by iooi 5y ago

birdyrooster 5y ago
America has a caste system too but we call it "class" typically to make it seem more meritocratic. In conversation we typically focus on the exceptional cases of economic mobility rather than the rule. I did use caste on purpose to draw the parallel to India, a place where Britain famously used the caste system to rule.
- known 5y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges Caste != Class In America there is no system in place today that forces people to remain separate or keeps one Class subservient to another. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) If you were born the son of a street sweeper, but excelled, you would be fully accepted by your peers. Not so in India. The Caste system freezes everyone in place for their life time. For someone to move from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_caste https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_caste to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste is denied. A Lower caste would never be allowed to marry Upper caste. https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013/01/16/why-honor-killings-happen/ https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013/01/16/why-honor-kil... And https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduled_Castes_and_Scheduled_Tribes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduled_Castes_and_Schedul... opening a restaurant or become a priest in a temple or become a member of high society in India is very rare indeed. Just 5% rapists are convicted/punished in India when the victim is 'Untouchable' as per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Crime_Records_Bureau https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Crime_Records_Burea... A separate country to 300 million Untouchables in South Asia is the solution http://chng.it/kJphRWWBRr http://chng.it/kJphRWWBRr
- rpmisms 5y ago
  That's a little bit intellectually dishonest. Class mobility does exist, albeit more rarely than it should, and unlike places with enforced social systems, you can't tell someone's social class by their name or clothes. Class is also a generalization: I'm a gainfully employed SWE, and I (by choice) live in a neighborhood where I hear gunshots nightly. I don't own any new clothing, my nicest pair of shoes are my work boots, and my friends are almost entirely blue-collar people. I could easily afford to live like an upper-middle-class yuppie, but I border on lower class at first glance. Is class entirely economic, or is there a social aspect?

Is this a reference to Amazon being disproportionately Indian?

by iooi 5y ago

Is this a reference to Amazon being disproportionately Indian?

America has a caste system too but we call it "class" typically to make it seem more meritocratic. In conversation we typically focus on the exceptional cases of economic mobility rather than the rule. I did use caste on purpose to draw the parallel to India, a place where Britain famously used the caste system to rule.

known 5y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges Caste != Class In America there is no system in place today that forces people to remain separate or keeps one Class subservient to another. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) If you were born the son of a street sweeper, but excelled, you would be fully accepted by your peers. Not so in India. The Caste system freezes everyone in place for their life time. For someone to move from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_caste https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_caste to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste is denied. A Lower caste would never be allowed to marry Upper caste. https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013/01/16/why-honor-killings-happen/ https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013/01/16/why-honor-kil... And https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduled_Castes_and_Scheduled_Tribes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduled_Castes_and_Schedul... opening a restaurant or become a priest in a temple or become a member of high society in India is very rare indeed. Just 5% rapists are convicted/punished in India when the victim is 'Untouchable' as per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Crime_Records_Bureau https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Crime_Records_Burea... A separate country to 300 million Untouchables in South Asia is the solution http://chng.it/kJphRWWBRr http://chng.it/kJphRWWBRr
rpmisms 5y ago
That's a little bit intellectually dishonest. Class mobility does exist, albeit more rarely than it should, and unlike places with enforced social systems, you can't tell someone's social class by their name or clothes. Class is also a generalization: I'm a gainfully employed SWE, and I (by choice) live in a neighborhood where I hear gunshots nightly. I don't own any new clothing, my nicest pair of shoes are my work boots, and my friends are almost entirely blue-collar people. I could easily afford to live like an upper-middle-class yuppie, but I border on lower class at first glance. Is class entirely economic, or is there a social aspect?