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Yeah, I too long for the days past when the US had less cultural problems/conflicts due to high church attendance numbers.

by ssully 5y ago

wavefunction 5y ago
There was a time in the US when good god fearin' church folk could gather together for traditional cultural expressions like extra-judicial lynchings of wrongly accused black men. You have to think America's lost something over the years. Thankfully.
- dang 5y ago
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- iammisc 5y ago
  Oh please. It's not like only whites were part of churches. Blacks are more likely to be part of a church anyway. As usual, this is white people's faults.
  - dang 5y ago
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nate_meurer 5y ago
I know right? What happened to the good old days when the big mainstream church organizations like the SBC were fighting the good fight against evils such as interracial marriage and civil rights?
- iammisc 5y ago
  > I know right? What happened to the good old days when the big mainstream church organizations like the SBC were fighting the good fight against evils such as interracial marriage and civil rights? You're just picking and choosing. In reality, religious organizations, like the Catholic church for example, were fighting the opposite fight. Perez v Sharp in California was orchestrated by the church: http://ccgaction.org/node/1011 http://ccgaction.org/node/1011 Of course, if we encourage community involvement, there will be good organizations and bad ones. For example, we provide 501(c)3 status to both Planned Parenthood as well as a pro-life organization.
  - nate_meurer 5y ago
    Good for them, seriously, but I don't think it takes a lot of "picking and choosing" to point out how influential "christian" churches were in the fight to preserve America's white supremist hierarchy. The SBC was and remains the largest christian organization in the US, and it was founded for the express purpose of defending slavery.
    - iammisc 5y ago
      > The SBC was and remains the largest christian organization in the US, and it was founded for the express purpose of defending slavery. The Catholic church is by far the largest christian organization in the united states. SBC is a distant second: https://theosophical.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/top-10-largest-christian-denominations-in-the-usa/ https://theosophical.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/top-10-largest...
      - nate_meurer 5y ago
        Ok, allow me to amend my statement: The SBC was and remains the largest protestant organization in the US, and it was founded for the express purpose of defending slavery. If you dismiss such things as mere "picking and choosing", you're unlikely to to be able to understand viewpoints to which you're inclined to disagree.

Yeah, I too long for the days past when the US had less cultural problems/conflicts due to high church attendance numbers.

by ssully 5y ago

Yeah, I too long for the days past when the US had less cultural problems/conflicts due to high church attendance numbers.

wavefunction 5y ago

There was a time in the US when good god fearin' church folk could gather together for traditional cultural expressions like extra-judicial lynchings of wrongly accused black men. You have to think America's lost something over the years. Thankfully.

dang 5y ago
We ban accounts that take HN threads further into flamewar hell like this, so please don't do that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
iammisc 5y ago
Oh please. It's not like only whites were part of churches. Blacks are more likely to be part of a church anyway. As usual, this is white people's faults.
- dang 5y ago
  We ban accounts that take HN threads further into flamewar hell like this, so please don't do that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

nate_meurer 5y ago

I know right? What happened to the good old days when the big mainstream church organizations like the SBC were fighting the good fight against evils such as interracial marriage and civil rights?

iammisc 5y ago
> I know right? What happened to the good old days when the big mainstream church organizations like the SBC were fighting the good fight against evils such as interracial marriage and civil rights? You're just picking and choosing. In reality, religious organizations, like the Catholic church for example, were fighting the opposite fight. Perez v Sharp in California was orchestrated by the church: http://ccgaction.org/node/1011 http://ccgaction.org/node/1011 Of course, if we encourage community involvement, there will be good organizations and bad ones. For example, we provide 501(c)3 status to both Planned Parenthood as well as a pro-life organization.
- nate_meurer 5y ago
  Good for them, seriously, but I don't think it takes a lot of "picking and choosing" to point out how influential "christian" churches were in the fight to preserve America's white supremist hierarchy. The SBC was and remains the largest christian organization in the US, and it was founded for the express purpose of defending slavery.
  - iammisc 5y ago
    > The SBC was and remains the largest christian organization in the US, and it was founded for the express purpose of defending slavery. The Catholic church is by far the largest christian organization in the united states. SBC is a distant second: https://theosophical.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/top-10-largest-christian-denominations-in-the-usa/ https://theosophical.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/top-10-largest...
    - nate_meurer 5y ago
      Ok, allow me to amend my statement: The SBC was and remains the largest protestant organization in the US, and it was founded for the express purpose of defending slavery. If you dismiss such things as mere "picking and choosing", you're unlikely to to be able to understand viewpoints to which you're inclined to disagree.