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The difference is choosing to engage or closing the web page. Plus, I have no problem talking with programmers about their jobs and hobbies. Compare that to t

The difference is choosing to engage or closing the web page. Plus, I have no problem talking with programmers about their jobs and hobbies. Compare that to talking to a program manager who's hobbies are comic book related... I'm not sure what to talk about with them... Maybe virtue vs hedonist philosophy? (They do comic books, they are clearly hedonists)

KittenInABox 5y ago
> They do comic books, they are clearly hedonists Are comics significantly more hedonistic than other media? (I'm genuinely asking; I've never been interested in comics but I've also never heard that they were all that different from other entertainment media.)
- deregulateMed 5y ago
  It could be argued that HN, news, and Reddit are less hedonist because they provide education. Although, my long term plan is to eliminate those in favor of non fiction books and personal projects. The best "pro comic book" argument I've heard is that science fiction can help you consider potential futures of humanity. This can reduce being surprised by biotechnology and AI events. This could help humanity vote better and make more ethical software. (or so the argument goes)
  - verall 5y ago
    It could be argued, but I think its a pretty weak argument. HN, Reddit, news, comics, manga, TV: its all a dopamine drip. The specifics can be impactful: a movie that changes your perspective, a great article on HN that helps you accomplish a goal better/faster/stronger. But usually you are just slamming your preferred dopamine drip. SciFi books or comics don't "help humanity vote better", they are enjoyed, the same way some people enjoy reading Reddit and HN.
  - hluska 5y ago
    Are you sure you want to say that people who like comic books are hedonists? That’s an overly cut and dried argument and people aren’t nearly that simple. Isn’t it more charitable and accurate to suggest that people like what they like? I like running obscenely long distances. First, what business is it of yours how others spend their time? Second, what possibly qualifies you to claim people are hedonists because they like what they like?? There’s nothing wrong with recreation or having fun. Life is very short and no matter how hard you work or how much you learn, you’re going to die. Live your life. Don’t let others call you names for being you. The converse is that when you don’t understand how others live, don’t call them hedonists. You just don’t understand because you’re you, not them.
    - deregulateMed 5y ago
      Hedonist is the proper name for the philosophy. Maybe I read too much philosophy because I was merely saying the proper term in the dichotomy between virtue ethics and pleasure ethics. Maybe I should stick to talking sportsball.
      - hluska 5y ago
        Or maybe just read more about hedonism? By your definition, you’re a hedonist as well because intellectual pleasure is still pleasure. Instead, I argue that that is a loaded term, we’re all individuals and we like what we like. It’s really nobody’s business and certainly nobody’s place to add a term (especially one with such negative pop connotations) to people who like what they like.
      - colinmhayes 5y ago
        Your definition of hedonism leaves a lot to be desired. There's a decent argument that even stoics are hedonists using your definition since they enjoy being stoics.
- denkmoon 5y ago
  I think it is more a funny poke at the moral panic surrounding comic books in the 50s?

KittenInABox 5y ago

> They do comic books, they are clearly hedonists Are comics significantly more hedonistic than other media? (I'm genuinely asking; I've never been interested in comics but I've also never heard that they were all that different from other entertainment media.)

deregulateMed 5y ago
It could be argued that HN, news, and Reddit are less hedonist because they provide education. Although, my long term plan is to eliminate those in favor of non fiction books and personal projects. The best "pro comic book" argument I've heard is that science fiction can help you consider potential futures of humanity. This can reduce being surprised by biotechnology and AI events. This could help humanity vote better and make more ethical software. (or so the argument goes)
- verall 5y ago
  It could be argued, but I think its a pretty weak argument. HN, Reddit, news, comics, manga, TV: its all a dopamine drip. The specifics can be impactful: a movie that changes your perspective, a great article on HN that helps you accomplish a goal better/faster/stronger. But usually you are just slamming your preferred dopamine drip. SciFi books or comics don't "help humanity vote better", they are enjoyed, the same way some people enjoy reading Reddit and HN.
- hluska 5y ago
  Are you sure you want to say that people who like comic books are hedonists? That’s an overly cut and dried argument and people aren’t nearly that simple. Isn’t it more charitable and accurate to suggest that people like what they like? I like running obscenely long distances. First, what business is it of yours how others spend their time? Second, what possibly qualifies you to claim people are hedonists because they like what they like?? There’s nothing wrong with recreation or having fun. Life is very short and no matter how hard you work or how much you learn, you’re going to die. Live your life. Don’t let others call you names for being you. The converse is that when you don’t understand how others live, don’t call them hedonists. You just don’t understand because you’re you, not them.
  - deregulateMed 5y ago
    Hedonist is the proper name for the philosophy. Maybe I read too much philosophy because I was merely saying the proper term in the dichotomy between virtue ethics and pleasure ethics. Maybe I should stick to talking sportsball.
    - hluska 5y ago
      Or maybe just read more about hedonism? By your definition, you’re a hedonist as well because intellectual pleasure is still pleasure. Instead, I argue that that is a loaded term, we’re all individuals and we like what we like. It’s really nobody’s business and certainly nobody’s place to add a term (especially one with such negative pop connotations) to people who like what they like.
    - colinmhayes 5y ago
      Your definition of hedonism leaves a lot to be desired. There's a decent argument that even stoics are hedonists using your definition since they enjoy being stoics.
denkmoon 5y ago
I think it is more a funny poke at the moral panic surrounding comic books in the 50s?