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UK seems especially ignorant about this. This just came out, Mike Graham wants those considered "racist" to be stripped of their human rights. "No bank account

UK seems especially ignorant about this. This just came out, Mike Graham wants those considered "racist" to be stripped of their human rights. "No bank account, no ability to travel, no passport no benefits nothing." https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1414888566941958144 https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1414888566941958144

partiallypro 5y ago
I saw they just arrested a man for saying racist things online after the Italy v England game. That's totally bonkers to me. We all agree racism is wrong but should speech backed by no actions be criminalized? I personally don't think so. Just ban the person from the platform and have private individuals handle it. The government has no place policing speech, it's a slippery slope to saying anything falls under x. I remember people complaining the governments were sweeping everything into the category of "terrorism" in order to stifle speech...that has disappeared. People seemed less inclined to support free speech now. Something I don't understand.
- hanniabu 5y ago
  So verbal assault, harassment, and threats shouldn't be an issue?
  - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
    No, verbal assault, harassment, and threats are issues. They should be dealt with as those issues, whether or not there is a racist component. I'm not condoning racism here. Racism is morally and ethically bankrupt. But I think that your objection to partiallypro's comment doesn't hold water.
  - partiallypro 5y ago
    Of course its an issue, but arresting someone for saying it and not acting it out seems ridiculous. Words are not actions, even if they are hurtful. Shun the person, ban them from games and platforms, educate them, etc...but arresting them?
- MrBuddyCasino 5y ago
  > Something I don't understand. We're going through a fascinating phase right now. If one is at all interested in philosophy, politics, religion & history there is a lot of discourse happening on Twitter and Substack, by extremely smart people. Look around, see for yourself who has the best arguments.
MrBuddyCasino 5y ago
Update: they arrested a 12yo boy over „racist messages“. https://twitter.com/wmpolice/status/1282341956199350272?s=21 https://twitter.com/wmpolice/status/1282341956199350272?s=21

partiallypro 5y ago

I saw they just arrested a man for saying racist things online after the Italy v England game. That's totally bonkers to me. We all agree racism is wrong but should speech backed by no actions be criminalized? I personally don't think so. Just ban the person from the platform and have private individuals handle it. The government has no place policing speech, it's a slippery slope to saying anything falls under x. I remember people complaining the governments were sweeping everything into the category of "terrorism" in order to stifle speech...that has disappeared. People seemed less inclined to support free speech now. Something I don't understand.

hanniabu 5y ago
So verbal assault, harassment, and threats shouldn't be an issue?
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  No, verbal assault, harassment, and threats are issues. They should be dealt with as those issues, whether or not there is a racist component. I'm not condoning racism here. Racism is morally and ethically bankrupt. But I think that your objection to partiallypro's comment doesn't hold water.
- partiallypro 5y ago
  Of course its an issue, but arresting someone for saying it and not acting it out seems ridiculous. Words are not actions, even if they are hurtful. Shun the person, ban them from games and platforms, educate them, etc...but arresting them?
MrBuddyCasino 5y ago
> Something I don't understand. We're going through a fascinating phase right now. If one is at all interested in philosophy, politics, religion & history there is a lot of discourse happening on Twitter and Substack, by extremely smart people. Look around, see for yourself who has the best arguments.

MrBuddyCasino 5y ago

Update: they arrested a 12yo boy over „racist messages“. https://twitter.com/wmpolice/status/1282341956199350272?s=21 https://twitter.com/wmpolice/status/1282341956199350272?s=21