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This looks really cool. Well done! And no electron. Will definitely try it out

jamil7 5y ago
> And no electron. I bought this app years ago - I have a feeling it might even predate electron? It's awesome for embedding simple diagrams.
- sigzero 5y ago
  Same here. I like it.
noxa 5y ago
I somewhat understand the hate for electron but as a non-Mac user I'd much rather have access to this app - and I suspect the author would rather have me pay them for it. For such niche software it seems silly to build it so platform specific.
- heyoni 5y ago
  To get that kind of native feel in an electron app is either impossible or going to take a lot more work than just using native SDK's. There's a reason people hate on electron, because it's a bloated alternative that merely comes close to having a native feel.
ajford 5y ago
I get the hate that Electron gets for it's weight and overhead, but this is a perfect example of why Electron has value. This app has no dependency on native OS for anything beyond writing data. It doesn't need to compile heavy code bases, it doesn't need fast GPU or other access. It could have very well been an electron app, and it would have the benefit of being widely available on many platforms. I'd love to be able to use this app, but as a Linux and Windows user, I'm unable to. So I'll be searching for an alternative that runs on the platforms I have access to. That said, no hate on the author for building the tool to their needs and desires. It's a fantastic looking app, and looks well executed. Wish I could use it.
- echelon 5y ago
  And think about how much more work it was. And how much more work it'll take to maintain and update. It's an interesting choice to do native. That said, very impressive work.
  - jamil7 5y ago
    > And think about how much more work it was. And how much more work it'll take to maintain and update. This isn't really true when supporting a single platform, assuming the author is fluent in AppKit etc.
    - kitsunesoba 5y ago
      AppKit apps also don’t usually break that easily. It’s surprisingly simple to get an abandoned OS X 10.0-10.4 era Cocoa app compiling and running on modern macOS, I’ve done it a couple times just for kicks.
- nih0 5y ago
  I like seeing devs embrace native frameworks. Electron apps just do UI so differently that its just a pain to use. For example dragging a file tab out of vs code doesnt create a new window like every other editor.
  - wayneftw 5y ago
    Just because it's not implemented yet doesn't mean it can't be implemented. Electron can do anything a native app can because it is a native app itself. Anyway, you can do it without dragging which is actually even better. Just do Ctrl+K, O or on a Mac Cmd+K, O. You can track when this feature is implemented here - https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/8171 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/8171
    - egypturnash 5y ago
      "you can do this thing in a completely different way than the native OS trains you to expect to do it, actually this is even better!"

> And no electron. I bought this app years ago - I have a feeling it might even predate electron? It's awesome for embedding simple diagrams.

sigzero 5y ago
Same here. I like it.

noxa 5y ago

I somewhat understand the hate for electron but as a non-Mac user I'd much rather have access to this app - and I suspect the author would rather have me pay them for it. For such niche software it seems silly to build it so platform specific.

heyoni 5y ago
To get that kind of native feel in an electron app is either impossible or going to take a lot more work than just using native SDK's. There's a reason people hate on electron, because it's a bloated alternative that merely comes close to having a native feel.

ajford 5y ago

I get the hate that Electron gets for it's weight and overhead, but this is a perfect example of why Electron has value. This app has no dependency on native OS for anything beyond writing data. It doesn't need to compile heavy code bases, it doesn't need fast GPU or other access. It could have very well been an electron app, and it would have the benefit of being widely available on many platforms. I'd love to be able to use this app, but as a Linux and Windows user, I'm unable to. So I'll be searching for an alternative that runs on the platforms I have access to. That said, no hate on the author for building the tool to their needs and desires. It's a fantastic looking app, and looks well executed. Wish I could use it.

echelon 5y ago
And think about how much more work it was. And how much more work it'll take to maintain and update. It's an interesting choice to do native. That said, very impressive work.
- jamil7 5y ago
  > And think about how much more work it was. And how much more work it'll take to maintain and update. This isn't really true when supporting a single platform, assuming the author is fluent in AppKit etc.
  - kitsunesoba 5y ago
    AppKit apps also don’t usually break that easily. It’s surprisingly simple to get an abandoned OS X 10.0-10.4 era Cocoa app compiling and running on modern macOS, I’ve done it a couple times just for kicks.
nih0 5y ago
I like seeing devs embrace native frameworks. Electron apps just do UI so differently that its just a pain to use. For example dragging a file tab out of vs code doesnt create a new window like every other editor.
- wayneftw 5y ago
  Just because it's not implemented yet doesn't mean it can't be implemented. Electron can do anything a native app can because it is a native app itself. Anyway, you can do it without dragging which is actually even better. Just do Ctrl+K, O or on a Mac Cmd+K, O. You can track when this feature is implemented here - https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/8171 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/8171
  - egypturnash 5y ago
    "you can do this thing in a completely different way than the native OS trains you to expect to do it, actually this is even better!"