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I have both Ergodox EZ, and ZSA Moonlander - Even though Moonlander has approximately same layout as Ergodox, the "margins" around the keyboard are a lot small

I have both Ergodox EZ, and ZSA Moonlander - Even though Moonlander has approximately same layout as Ergodox, the "margins" around the keyboard are a lot smaller, so I noticed it fit a lot better on my desk. Small thing, but I felt it made difference for me. - The thumb clusters are more ergonomic for me on the Moonlander - I still often feel that I would like to have an extra row of buttons on the Ergodox/Moonlander, instead of the layer system. Oh, well ...

noneeeed 5y ago
That's good to hear. I'm tempted to get the Moonlander. I have ergodox ez at the moment which I really like. I've never really got into the layer system. It feels like something that would be great to already be fluent with, but the effort involved in getting there doesn't seem to be worth it.
vladvasiliu 5y ago
> I still often feel that I would like to have an extra row of buttons on the Ergodox/Moonlander, instead of the layer system. Oh, well ... This is one of the things (the other being price) that stop me from jumping on the moonlander. I really like having direct access to some functions I don't use constantly, like media controls and such. I don't mind having to move my hand to reach those, since I don't use them constantly, but it's practical to be able to operate them with just one finger. Like volume when I'm eating, etc. The Moonlander doesn't even have proper F keys... More generally, this is a gripe I have with compact keyboards. I would really love to have "macro" keys, either to the top or to the left of the keyboard, but I absolutely hate having a number pad. For some reason, all the "compact" keyboards seem to want to go "as compact as possible". I don't carry my keyboard with me and have enough desk space for a big surface keyboard. I just don't want my mouse hand to have to travel far to reach the mouse.

noneeeed 5y ago

That's good to hear. I'm tempted to get the Moonlander. I have ergodox ez at the moment which I really like. I've never really got into the layer system. It feels like something that would be great to already be fluent with, but the effort involved in getting there doesn't seem to be worth it.

vladvasiliu 5y ago

> I still often feel that I would like to have an extra row of buttons on the Ergodox/Moonlander, instead of the layer system. Oh, well ... This is one of the things (the other being price) that stop me from jumping on the moonlander. I really like having direct access to some functions I don't use constantly, like media controls and such. I don't mind having to move my hand to reach those, since I don't use them constantly, but it's practical to be able to operate them with just one finger. Like volume when I'm eating, etc. The Moonlander doesn't even have proper F keys... More generally, this is a gripe I have with compact keyboards. I would really love to have "macro" keys, either to the top or to the left of the keyboard, but I absolutely hate having a number pad. For some reason, all the "compact" keyboards seem to want to go "as compact as possible". I don't carry my keyboard with me and have enough desk space for a big surface keyboard. I just don't want my mouse hand to have to travel far to reach the mouse.