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What’s with the doomer mentality. NSA isn’t some magical unicorn that can just walk through everything

ARandomerDude 5y ago
They kind of are though. If you have a LOT of money, time, and personnel -- and they do -- you can find a lot of vulnerabilities.
- nextlevelwizard 5y ago
  Yes and we've seen their shit get leaked over the years. From that we can see clear patterns in what they view as valuable and where they spend their significant, but still limited focus.
  - nix23 5y ago
    Can you proof that it is a leak, and not a stunt by the NSA itself?
    - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
      You have be wearing multiple tinfoil hats if you think NSA released DeepBlue as some sort of black flag OP
      - nix23 5y ago
        >NSA released DeepBlue as some sort of black flag OP EternalBlue...and it was a part of the shadow broker package, but that was just one occasion, Snowden is one of the other. One must probably wear a Tar-hat to think that this is impossible.
        nextlevelwizard 5y ago
        I guess we just have to agree to disagree. There was no benefit for them releasing the zero day.
nix23 5y ago
>NSA isn’t some magical unicorn With unlimited money and the given job to crack encryption, hack into systems and secure the networks of the wealthiest nation and only superpower on earth atm. It IS pretty much a unicorn, and i am pretty sure they are +20 years in the future technology-wise, and with that: >>Arthur C. Clarke — 'Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.' So yes Magic Unicorn describes the NSA pretty well.
- aj3 5y ago
  Yeah, that's bullshit. For NSA-proof personal tech stack you'd rely more on tamper-evident blocks that's all. Also, security in depth and security through obscurity are much more applicable if you're a person and not an organization. Finally, +20 years head start does not mean much if you distrohop and FOMO into bleeding edge stuff like a tech podcaster.
  - nix23 5y ago
    Not sure if you know what your talking about, you sound a bit like a bot #NSA-proof #distrohop
    - aj3 5y ago
      In case you're genuinely curious, 'NSA-proof' is a portmanteau from NSA and 'idiot-proof'. Distrohopping is when people change (usually GNU/Linux) distributions once a month or so (which is an allusion at tongue-in-cheek conjecture that one can change distributions faster than NSA can break them). Have a good day, fellow human.
      - nix23 5y ago
        >one can change distributions faster than NSA can break them Oh man i don't know what to say. Does one distrohop the ssd/efi/net/wireless/keyboard/etc-firmware too? One distrohoped for 15 years and that vuln existed all the time..but hey it would be just that one...it's an exception right? ;) https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/115565/security/linux-kernel-flaws.html https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/115565/security/linux-k... How many completely different browsers exist? And how many local exploitable user to root exploits exist in the Apple/Linux/BSD world's? If your a valued target and you are connected to a network you WILL be hacked.

They kind of are though. If you have a LOT of money, time, and personnel -- and they do -- you can find a lot of vulnerabilities.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago
Yes and we've seen their shit get leaked over the years. From that we can see clear patterns in what they view as valuable and where they spend their significant, but still limited focus.
- nix23 5y ago
  Can you proof that it is a leak, and not a stunt by the NSA itself?
  - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
    You have be wearing multiple tinfoil hats if you think NSA released DeepBlue as some sort of black flag OP
    - nix23 5y ago
      >NSA released DeepBlue as some sort of black flag OP EternalBlue...and it was a part of the shadow broker package, but that was just one occasion, Snowden is one of the other. One must probably wear a Tar-hat to think that this is impossible.
      - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
        I guess we just have to agree to disagree. There was no benefit for them releasing the zero day.

nix23 5y ago

>NSA isn’t some magical unicorn With unlimited money and the given job to crack encryption, hack into systems and secure the networks of the wealthiest nation and only superpower on earth atm. It IS pretty much a unicorn, and i am pretty sure they are +20 years in the future technology-wise, and with that: >>Arthur C. Clarke — 'Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.' So yes Magic Unicorn describes the NSA pretty well.

aj3 5y ago
Yeah, that's bullshit. For NSA-proof personal tech stack you'd rely more on tamper-evident blocks that's all. Also, security in depth and security through obscurity are much more applicable if you're a person and not an organization. Finally, +20 years head start does not mean much if you distrohop and FOMO into bleeding edge stuff like a tech podcaster.
- nix23 5y ago
  Not sure if you know what your talking about, you sound a bit like a bot #NSA-proof #distrohop
  - aj3 5y ago
    In case you're genuinely curious, 'NSA-proof' is a portmanteau from NSA and 'idiot-proof'. Distrohopping is when people change (usually GNU/Linux) distributions once a month or so (which is an allusion at tongue-in-cheek conjecture that one can change distributions faster than NSA can break them). Have a good day, fellow human.
    - nix23 5y ago
      >one can change distributions faster than NSA can break them Oh man i don't know what to say. Does one distrohop the ssd/efi/net/wireless/keyboard/etc-firmware too? One distrohoped for 15 years and that vuln existed all the time..but hey it would be just that one...it's an exception right? ;) https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/115565/security/linux-kernel-flaws.html https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/115565/security/linux-k... How many completely different browsers exist? And how many local exploitable user to root exploits exist in the Apple/Linux/BSD world's? If your a valued target and you are connected to a network you WILL be hacked.