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Interesting and promising to hear. I dont like this sort of thing: > That’s why it remains so critical that more Americans get vaccinated not only to protect

Interesting and promising to hear. I dont like this sort of thing: > That’s why it remains so critical that more Americans get vaccinated not only to protect themselves and their loved ones, but to help stop the virus’s spread in their communities and thereby reduce its ability to mutate. I see this is a blog and not a journal paper, but this kind of motherhood statement lowers the overall credibility. Also, it was interesting to see that pfizer was quick to say a booster was necessary soon. I hadn't thought about that before but it's no surprise that pharmaceutical companies would want to do everything they can to turn this into ARR instead of just a one shot fix. This is something that is going to require real vigilance.

ideamotor 5y ago
It’s a factual scientific statement that absolutely should be stated by as many people of all professions as possible, especially scientists that study this exact topic. You lost your credibility when you threw this shit on it.
- amznthrwaway 5y ago
  CPAC audiences recently applauded low vaccination rates. The right wing has gone completely insane.
- version_five 5y ago
  I disagree, specifically with the idea of mixing telling people what to do with reporting cause and effect. The latter is clearly within the realm of the researcher's expertise. The former is a more complex political decision that has a lot of other factors. In this case, the statement (get vaccicanted) is not even controversial. But it's the principal of specialists mixing telling people as a group what to do with the results of their studies that I object to. I dont expect my point to be understood or appreciated (people literally looked into my comment history and downvoted past comments when I posted the GP) but I want to clarify my point. Treatment science as a religion is not a way forward, even if scientists say things you agree with.
  - glial 5y ago
    > the principal of specialists mixing telling people as a group what to do When specialists tell you not to drink contaminated lake water, or to wear a mask when removing asbestos tiles, or to get a colonoscopy when you turn 50, do you reject those recommendations also?
    - spookthesunset 5y ago
      Those people are acting within their specialty. For the last year and a half the only voice in the room that was allowed was that of the doomsday epidemiologist. Whatever recommendations they said were taken at face value with no thought or regard to any other specialty at all. Epidemiologists are not experts in political science, economics, mental health, education, public health, business, finance, behavioral health, law or anything else. When these people make unilateral public policy decisions, they are operating well outside their expertise. Unilateral myopic Technocracy ain’t what it was made out to be. It appears to quickly devolve into straight fascism.
      - ideamotor 5y ago
        Quite the contrary, we let many absolute psychos in the room. Notably, Trump. And we are far worse for it, and are about to be hit in the face for it. It’s absolutely false that only epidemiologists were the only voice or decision maker. You’re dreaming something up. P.S. I don’t downvote. Finally, I have a degree in public policy that included classes in political science, statistics, economics, business, finance, and law. So listen to me. ;)
      - glial 5y ago
        > Epidemiologists are not experts in political science, economics, mental health, education, public health, business, finance, behavioral health, law or anything else. OK, but the parent was complaining about recommendations that people get vaccinated, which is what I was responding to.
deregulateMed 5y ago
The blog post cites the scientific study here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34182569/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34182569/
andrewclunn 5y ago
Opinions are facts wen the halls of power say they are. Now conform slave!
Someone1234 5y ago
The booster is targeting the delta variant, rather than the [original] alpha variant. It is essentially a tweak to the original vaccine to improve immune response. > no surprise that pharmaceutical companies would want to do everything they can to turn this into ARR instead of just a one shot fix Are you suggesting pharmaceutical companies are creating the COVID-19 variants? Because if not then this line of complaint is confusing.
vmception 5y ago
The public sector exists to curb the excesses of private organizations regardless of whether the private organization provides a useful service. It doesn’t require a conspiracy to understand that pfizer will both provide a benign working solution and also try to leverage their position in the community to sell unnecessary things This isn’t that hard

ideamotor 5y ago

It’s a factual scientific statement that absolutely should be stated by as many people of all professions as possible, especially scientists that study this exact topic. You lost your credibility when you threw this shit on it.

amznthrwaway 5y ago
CPAC audiences recently applauded low vaccination rates. The right wing has gone completely insane.
version_five 5y ago
I disagree, specifically with the idea of mixing telling people what to do with reporting cause and effect. The latter is clearly within the realm of the researcher's expertise. The former is a more complex political decision that has a lot of other factors. In this case, the statement (get vaccicanted) is not even controversial. But it's the principal of specialists mixing telling people as a group what to do with the results of their studies that I object to. I dont expect my point to be understood or appreciated (people literally looked into my comment history and downvoted past comments when I posted the GP) but I want to clarify my point. Treatment science as a religion is not a way forward, even if scientists say things you agree with.
- glial 5y ago
  > the principal of specialists mixing telling people as a group what to do When specialists tell you not to drink contaminated lake water, or to wear a mask when removing asbestos tiles, or to get a colonoscopy when you turn 50, do you reject those recommendations also?
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    Those people are acting within their specialty. For the last year and a half the only voice in the room that was allowed was that of the doomsday epidemiologist. Whatever recommendations they said were taken at face value with no thought or regard to any other specialty at all. Epidemiologists are not experts in political science, economics, mental health, education, public health, business, finance, behavioral health, law or anything else. When these people make unilateral public policy decisions, they are operating well outside their expertise. Unilateral myopic Technocracy ain’t what it was made out to be. It appears to quickly devolve into straight fascism.
    - ideamotor 5y ago
      Quite the contrary, we let many absolute psychos in the room. Notably, Trump. And we are far worse for it, and are about to be hit in the face for it. It’s absolutely false that only epidemiologists were the only voice or decision maker. You’re dreaming something up. P.S. I don’t downvote. Finally, I have a degree in public policy that included classes in political science, statistics, economics, business, finance, and law. So listen to me. ;)
    - glial 5y ago
      > Epidemiologists are not experts in political science, economics, mental health, education, public health, business, finance, behavioral health, law or anything else. OK, but the parent was complaining about recommendations that people get vaccinated, which is what I was responding to.

deregulateMed 5y ago

The blog post cites the scientific study here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34182569/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34182569/

andrewclunn 5y ago

Opinions are facts wen the halls of power say they are. Now conform slave!

Someone1234 5y ago

The booster is targeting the delta variant, rather than the [original] alpha variant. It is essentially a tweak to the original vaccine to improve immune response. > no surprise that pharmaceutical companies would want to do everything they can to turn this into ARR instead of just a one shot fix Are you suggesting pharmaceutical companies are creating the COVID-19 variants? Because if not then this line of complaint is confusing.

vmception 5y ago

The public sector exists to curb the excesses of private organizations regardless of whether the private organization provides a useful service. It doesn’t require a conspiracy to understand that pfizer will both provide a benign working solution and also try to leverage their position in the community to sell unnecessary things This isn’t that hard