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I understand the motivation. A user might set an app's volume low and raise the system volume very high to compensate. But then audio from another program, like

by varenc 5y ago

I understand the motivation. A user might set an app's volume low and raise the system volume very high to compensate. But then audio from another program, likely Teams, might blow your ears out when it starts. In a vacuum, I like the idea, but given that the standard on Desktop is in-app volume control Teams' behavior sounds worse. In iOS I've never seen an in-app volume control (I assume its forbidden) and all volume adjustments affect the system volume.

reificator 5y ago
> In iOS I never seen an in-app volume control (I assume its forbidden) and all volume adjustments affect the system volume. Typically games will have them so you can balance out music and interface sounds relative to in-game sounds. In my opinion a volume mixer is a requirement for a decent user experience. To reuse the game example: if I want to listen to a podcast while playing, I'd better be able to hear the podcast clearly while also hearing the important sounds from the game.
- _carbyau_ 5y ago
  Gaming with friends online. 1. Upon first open of the game, turn the music volume to off or 10%. 2. Make any other game noise 30% max. 3. Enjoy being able to play and hear game, while also being able to hear friends on Mumble at reasonable volume.
- HelixEndeavor 5y ago
  I will say I find the inconsistency in whether a game will obey the physical Silent switch on iOS to be annoying at times. I'll know I have my volume turned up but oh, this game is being silent because Silent is on. At the very least that should be an option. While I'm on the Silent gripe, mild tangent, but Facebook on Android refusing to follow the Notifications volume and instead following the Ringtone volume is one of the shittiest pieces of UX I have to deal with daily.
  - dannyw 5y ago
    I'm confident it's intentional at this point - they probably A/B tested alternatives and realised this gives them the highest engagement.
    - HelixEndeavor 5y ago
      Oh, it's painfully obvious that it's intentional, and that's what makes it truly infuriating. I can tolerate a genuine mistake from a developer, no biggie, we're all human, yadda yadda, I *cannot* tolerate Zuckerborg condescendingly ignoring my own decisions and autonomy with my device and asserting that his stupid app is more important than anything else in my life at any given moment.
toss1 5y ago
Seems that, since the right volume to adjust is dependent on so many contextual variables, the right thing to do is to display two sliders, one for app & one for the system volume, and let the user adjust the appropriate one.
wly_cdgr 5y ago
Cap every app's local volume setting at lowest in use by any app & only allow user to raise volume above this threshold explicitly for currently focused app

by varenc 5y ago

reificator 5y ago

> In iOS I never seen an in-app volume control (I assume its forbidden) and all volume adjustments affect the system volume. Typically games will have them so you can balance out music and interface sounds relative to in-game sounds. In my opinion a volume mixer is a requirement for a decent user experience. To reuse the game example: if I want to listen to a podcast while playing, I'd better be able to hear the podcast clearly while also hearing the important sounds from the game.

_carbyau_ 5y ago
Gaming with friends online. 1. Upon first open of the game, turn the music volume to off or 10%. 2. Make any other game noise 30% max. 3. Enjoy being able to play and hear game, while also being able to hear friends on Mumble at reasonable volume.
HelixEndeavor 5y ago
I will say I find the inconsistency in whether a game will obey the physical Silent switch on iOS to be annoying at times. I'll know I have my volume turned up but oh, this game is being silent because Silent is on. At the very least that should be an option. While I'm on the Silent gripe, mild tangent, but Facebook on Android refusing to follow the Notifications volume and instead following the Ringtone volume is one of the shittiest pieces of UX I have to deal with daily.
- dannyw 5y ago
  I'm confident it's intentional at this point - they probably A/B tested alternatives and realised this gives them the highest engagement.
  - HelixEndeavor 5y ago
    Oh, it's painfully obvious that it's intentional, and that's what makes it truly infuriating. I can tolerate a genuine mistake from a developer, no biggie, we're all human, yadda yadda, I *cannot* tolerate Zuckerborg condescendingly ignoring my own decisions and autonomy with my device and asserting that his stupid app is more important than anything else in my life at any given moment.

toss1 5y ago

Seems that, since the right volume to adjust is dependent on so many contextual variables, the right thing to do is to display two sliders, one for app & one for the system volume, and let the user adjust the appropriate one.

wly_cdgr 5y ago

Cap every app's local volume setting at lowest in use by any app & only allow user to raise volume above this threshold explicitly for currently focused app