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Apple won this back in 1999: https://i.imgur.com/V9WQ8Gc.png https://i.imgur.com/V9WQ8Gc.png

bashinator 5y ago
Oooh, so that’s where the allergy to skeuomorphism comes from.
deaddodo 5y ago
Might be useful if you pointed out what you’re referring to. I assume it’s the little volume control on QuickTime player?
- icedchai 5y ago
  It took me more than a few seconds to even find the control. I guess that's why it's so bad!
  - Sebb767 5y ago
    To be honest, without reading the comments I actually would not have realized that there's a volume control visible on this screen.
- perryizgr8 5y ago
  Yes, it was extremely difficult to adjust accurately.
  - runawaybottle 5y ago
    The insanity of the false intuitiveness is hilarious. So let me get this straight, you need pixel perfect accuracy to reduce the volume to lowest, but not as much to increase it to the highest? How was this delineation determined?
hnick 5y ago
Speaking of Apple, it is more than a little frustrating that if I start driving with Google Maps, and I realise it's too quiet, the volume control changes the Ringer instead of the media volume unless I time it to be while she is speaking. Which is kind of tough if it's really quiet, and hard to catch during shorter snippets anyway. I remember on Android when the app had focus it'd always change the media volume in these situations. I'm not sure which of them to blame!
- boomlinde 5y ago
  Cleverness over predictability. Instead of removing or even hiding complexity they obfuscate it. It seems like a consistent theme with Apple's designs.
- whywhywhywhy 5y ago
  Still think changing the volume from just being one setting and hard mute switch to the granular ringer/volume and context based approach was a mistake. I liked I could physical switch kill my phones sound so if you were browsing Twitter or whatever on public transport you knew it would always be muted. Now if you click on a video in most apps it will just ignore the mute and start playing it at likely full volume. The physical mute switch only seems to truly silence the ringer and the OS overrules it if it thinks you want to listen to video.
quicklime 5y ago
Yep, I came here to mention the QuickTime volume control wheel, which was strangely missing from the article. Skeuomorphism gone mad. http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/qtime.htm http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/qtime.htm
einr 5y ago
The extra funny bit is that the type of physical volume control it's imitating is bad even in the real world. I remember having these dinky little wheels on Walkmans and such and having to fiddle a lot with them to get the exact volume I wanted.

Oooh, so that’s where the allergy to skeuomorphism comes from.

Might be useful if you pointed out what you’re referring to. I assume it’s the little volume control on QuickTime player?

icedchai 5y ago
It took me more than a few seconds to even find the control. I guess that's why it's so bad!
- Sebb767 5y ago
  To be honest, without reading the comments I actually would not have realized that there's a volume control visible on this screen.
perryizgr8 5y ago
Yes, it was extremely difficult to adjust accurately.
- runawaybottle 5y ago
  The insanity of the false intuitiveness is hilarious. So let me get this straight, you need pixel perfect accuracy to reduce the volume to lowest, but not as much to increase it to the highest? How was this delineation determined?

hnick 5y ago

Speaking of Apple, it is more than a little frustrating that if I start driving with Google Maps, and I realise it's too quiet, the volume control changes the Ringer instead of the media volume unless I time it to be while she is speaking. Which is kind of tough if it's really quiet, and hard to catch during shorter snippets anyway. I remember on Android when the app had focus it'd always change the media volume in these situations. I'm not sure which of them to blame!

boomlinde 5y ago
Cleverness over predictability. Instead of removing or even hiding complexity they obfuscate it. It seems like a consistent theme with Apple's designs.
whywhywhywhy 5y ago
Still think changing the volume from just being one setting and hard mute switch to the granular ringer/volume and context based approach was a mistake. I liked I could physical switch kill my phones sound so if you were browsing Twitter or whatever on public transport you knew it would always be muted. Now if you click on a video in most apps it will just ignore the mute and start playing it at likely full volume. The physical mute switch only seems to truly silence the ringer and the OS overrules it if it thinks you want to listen to video.

quicklime 5y ago

Yep, I came here to mention the QuickTime volume control wheel, which was strangely missing from the article. Skeuomorphism gone mad. http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/qtime.htm http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/qtime.htm

einr 5y ago

The extra funny bit is that the type of physical volume control it's imitating is bad even in the real world. I remember having these dinky little wheels on Walkmans and such and having to fiddle a lot with them to get the exact volume I wanted.