> Depends on your definition of winning. At the risk of being Schopenhauered, I would say that any argument has a target and an audience, and that the goal of

> Depends on your definition of winning. At the risk of being Schopenhauered, I would say that any argument has a target and an audience, and that the goal of any argument is to convince the audience, rather than the target (though these can be the same person). As others have identified - arguments are rarely, if ever, won on rationality. Rationality is a tool in arguing, like any other argumentative tool, but it rarely convinces those who do not hold it as a virtue in life.