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The time I lost my faith in Firefox was when the CEO of Mozilla got a huge pay increase, whilst firing many technical people at the same time. How can a tech co

The time I lost my faith in Firefox was when the CEO of Mozilla got a huge pay increase, whilst firing many technical people at the same time. How can a tech company improve their product without those technical people? Oh, never mention the ever-decreasing number of Firefox users. Weren't the C-level people responsible for that? Anyway, that was the moment when I realized Mozilla was just another company, not a flagship open source advocator or something. They're not even pretending anymore. Look at the sneaky attempts to integrate ads on Firefox. Look at the user experience being degraded every year. They are not listening to me, so I decided to not listen to them.

twelvechairs 5y ago
So whats the better, more ethical alternative? Certainly not Chrome
- shadilay 5y ago
  Servo
- atatatat 5y ago
  Edge
  - benrbray 5y ago
    I was really rooting for Edge back before they switched to Chromium. Now it's just worse Chrome. I do use it as my default PDF viewer though as I don't know of any other free tool for linux that lets you annotate PDFs. (there's Master PDF but it's a bit overkill when I just want some multicolored highlighters.)
    - atatatat 5y ago
      Security-wise, it's far better Chrome. Privacy score really depends on your views on MS/Google/Mozilla. Firefox is taaaaalkative.
    - alessivs 5y ago
      > I don't know of any other free tool for linux that lets you annotate PDFs ...snip... some multicolored highlighters xournalpp, okular.
- int_19h 5y ago
  Vivaldi.
  - simondotau 5y ago
    That's still Chromium. I care more about avoiding a browser monoculture than I care about dick-measuring the corporate ethics of the three remaining companies which actually maintain actual browser engines. People might hate Safari but with Firefox slowly retreating into obscurity, Safari looks to be the final vanguard against a total Chromium monoculture. Yet many on HN absolutely abhor Safari because it doesn't currently support some bleeding edge feature which end users probably don't care about.
    - Siira 5y ago
      Safari is holding mobile apps back. I prefer a monoculture to Chrome+Safari.
    - Teever 5y ago
      Which platforms is Safari available for?
      - simondotau 5y ago
        Platform availability isn't the operative metric when concerned about browser monoculture. The only metric of concern is browser market share. Safari represents approximately 20 percent of browsers.

twelvechairs 5y ago

So whats the better, more ethical alternative? Certainly not Chrome

shadilay 5y ago
Servo
atatatat 5y ago
Edge
- benrbray 5y ago
  I was really rooting for Edge back before they switched to Chromium. Now it's just worse Chrome. I do use it as my default PDF viewer though as I don't know of any other free tool for linux that lets you annotate PDFs. (there's Master PDF but it's a bit overkill when I just want some multicolored highlighters.)
  - atatatat 5y ago
    Security-wise, it's far better Chrome. Privacy score really depends on your views on MS/Google/Mozilla. Firefox is taaaaalkative.
  - alessivs 5y ago
    > I don't know of any other free tool for linux that lets you annotate PDFs ...snip... some multicolored highlighters xournalpp, okular.
int_19h 5y ago
Vivaldi.
- simondotau 5y ago
  That's still Chromium. I care more about avoiding a browser monoculture than I care about dick-measuring the corporate ethics of the three remaining companies which actually maintain actual browser engines. People might hate Safari but with Firefox slowly retreating into obscurity, Safari looks to be the final vanguard against a total Chromium monoculture. Yet many on HN absolutely abhor Safari because it doesn't currently support some bleeding edge feature which end users probably don't care about.
  - Siira 5y ago
    Safari is holding mobile apps back. I prefer a monoculture to Chrome+Safari.
  - Teever 5y ago
    Which platforms is Safari available for?
    - simondotau 5y ago
      Platform availability isn't the operative metric when concerned about browser monoculture. The only metric of concern is browser market share. Safari represents approximately 20 percent of browsers.