Another thing are all kinds of standard boards, and committees like IETF, W3C, IEEE becoming very secretive themselves. A decade, or more ago IEEE had a rule t

Another thing are all kinds of standard boards, and committees like IETF, W3C, IEEE becoming very secretive themselves. A decade, or more ago IEEE had a rule that anything said in a standard board meeting cannot be be expected to not be public, or be subject to any disclosure limit post-factum. In 2019, after years of relentless pressure from Google, Cisco, Amazon, the rule was effectively reversed, and now IEEE standard board meetings can be made super duper secret, so members can now conspire to break antitrust laws in every imaginable way in complete privacy, free of recordings, and stenography.