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Want a Web run by human beings again? Want tracking methods impossible to implement in any meaningful fashion by design? Try Gemini. Gemini is here and can b

Want a Web run by human beings again? Want tracking methods impossible to implement in any meaningful fashion by design? Try Gemini. Gemini is here and can be used TODAY. https://gemini.circumlunar.space/ https://gemini.circumlunar.space/ The only thing standing between you and the next web is... a lot, but try it anyway, things have to start somewhere.

cusenses 5y ago
What prevents Gemini from being taken over and utilized just like the current web has been?
- hkt 5y ago
  Governance is the only thing that can. There are no technical measures that can prevent it.
- skymt 5y ago
  The Gemini protocol is intended to exclude features that could be used for tracking. It has no cookies, user-agent, referer, etc and the protocol is not extensible enough that such features could be easily added. Also, frankly, the spartan design of native Gemini pages (very limited formatting, no scripts or even inline images!) means that the circle of nerds who use Gemini will almost certainly remain too small to catch the eye of ad-tech. It's hostile to commerce in a way I find kind of delightful. https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/faq.gmi https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/faq.gmi
  - cesarb 5y ago
    > It has no cookies, user-agent, referer, etc and the protocol is not extensible enough that such features could be easily added. For now. The original HTTP (now retroactively called HTTP/0.9) also had none of these, and also wasn't extensible enough; it had no headers at all, just the verb (GET) and the path. Yet somehow, it was later extended to include all of these. > very limited formatting, no scripts or even inline images! The original HTML was also like that, even inline images came later.
calvinmorrison 5y ago
my favorite client is Lagrange. The experience is nice and the codebase is sane
DenseComet 5y ago
Do you have a list of sites on Gemini that are interesting or useful? I don't use the web because it uses HTML or because it has JS or really any particular technical feature. I use it because it has sites like HN and Google, and I think the same thing applies to Gemini. I love the ideas behind Gemini, but I'm not sure why I'd use Gemini if there are not interesting sites.
- floren 5y ago
  Well, Gemini is the best place to read about Gemini :)

cusenses 5y ago

What prevents Gemini from being taken over and utilized just like the current web has been?

hkt 5y ago
Governance is the only thing that can. There are no technical measures that can prevent it.
skymt 5y ago
The Gemini protocol is intended to exclude features that could be used for tracking. It has no cookies, user-agent, referer, etc and the protocol is not extensible enough that such features could be easily added. Also, frankly, the spartan design of native Gemini pages (very limited formatting, no scripts or even inline images!) means that the circle of nerds who use Gemini will almost certainly remain too small to catch the eye of ad-tech. It's hostile to commerce in a way I find kind of delightful. https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/faq.gmi https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/faq.gmi
- cesarb 5y ago
  > It has no cookies, user-agent, referer, etc and the protocol is not extensible enough that such features could be easily added. For now. The original HTTP (now retroactively called HTTP/0.9) also had none of these, and also wasn't extensible enough; it had no headers at all, just the verb (GET) and the path. Yet somehow, it was later extended to include all of these. > very limited formatting, no scripts or even inline images! The original HTML was also like that, even inline images came later.

calvinmorrison 5y ago

my favorite client is Lagrange. The experience is nice and the codebase is sane

DenseComet 5y ago

Do you have a list of sites on Gemini that are interesting or useful? I don't use the web because it uses HTML or because it has JS or really any particular technical feature. I use it because it has sites like HN and Google, and I think the same thing applies to Gemini. I love the ideas behind Gemini, but I'm not sure why I'd use Gemini if there are not interesting sites.

floren 5y ago
Well, Gemini is the best place to read about Gemini :)