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I choose to help people support a portfolio of carbon removal at https://carbonremoved.com https://carbonremoved.com If you're working on carbon removal or wan

I choose to help people support a portfolio of carbon removal at https://carbonremoved.com https://carbonremoved.com If you're working on carbon removal or want to support carbon removal please feel free to email me directly: ewan (at) above website

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tito 5y ago
Nice work! Are you already on AirMiners? If not, you would fit right in. You're on it with all the replies the thread today...I'm replying opportunistically while sitting by a pool :D
- kisamoto 5y ago
  Lucky for some! We're not on AirMiners - will check it out tomorrow. Have to sign off shortly unfortunately but will check back tomorrow for replies. Enjoy that pool!
  - tito 5y ago
    All good, cya soon!
thamer 5y ago
Great initiative! I offset my emissions with Wren (https://wren.co https://wren.co – I am not affiliated) and wonder how it compares to Carbon Removed. My current plan there is ~$23 to offset 200% of my emissions for a total of 1.3 tons of CO2/month (if that seems low: I have no car, no commute, live in a 1-bedroom apartment and rarely eat meat). The plans for Carbon Removed are at $15 for 100 kg, $42 for 300 kg, and $65 for 500 kg. Why such a difference? That's $0.13-0.15/kg for Carbon Removed and $0.018/kg at Wren. Where is the difference coming from?
- kisamoto 5y ago
  Thanks for your feedback and great news that you are already taking responsibility for your footprint. A key difference between us and Wren (and other offset based services) is that we focus on carbon removal - actively undoing a carbon footprint, rather than offsetting it. The way we see it this way: if we emit a ton of CO₂, we should remove a ton resulting in 0 emissions in the atmosphere. If we offset (by paying typically developing countries to change their behaviour), there is still a ton in the atmosphere. As a result, sequestering carbon dioxide is much harder and expensive. For example, removing via Direct Air Capture is currently around $1000/ton. Via bio-oil is close to $700/ton. At the other end of the scale offsets are typically $32/ton. I don't want to diminish the efforts of offsets - they have a place and help developing nations transition to more sustainable alternatives - but we want to focus on bringing carbon removal down the curve. To try and make this more affordable we also mix in calculated removals via forestation which is cheaper. Does that make things a little clearer?
  - thamer 5y ago
    I get that carbon capture is very expensive and difficult, but surely planting trees does remove carbon from the atmosphere? That's where their biomass mostly comes from. On my Wren profile, it says "Your annual carbon emissions are equivalent to..." with a few equivalent amounts like "18793 miles driven in a car" or "The amount of CO2 349 pine trees absorb in a year". So isn't planting 349 pine trees in a year offsetting my emissions, literally removing the CO2 my lifestyle produced? (maybe once they're grown). If what you mean by offsets is more something like "pay to have N people switch to cleaner fuels instead of cooking with coal", then sure. But on Wren you can choose how to distribute the amount you pay; some can go to planting trees, some can go to cleaner fuels, or rainforest protection, etc. I looked up other similar services yesterday and found Terrapass (https://www.terrapass.com/ https://www.terrapass.com/ – also not affiliated) and their plan for 13,000 lbs/year costs $4.86/month or $58.32/5,897kg or ≈ 1c/kg. That said, it wasn't exactly clear from a quick look whether it was lowering emissions by this amount of removing the same amount. I do get your point though, and the distinction is definitely important. The name Carbon Removed certainly makes this goal clear. I wish other services clearly differentiated how much CO2 was actively removed per dollar spent. In any case, best of luck! I'm glad to see more of these initiatives and wish you success.

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tito 5y ago

Nice work! Are you already on AirMiners? If not, you would fit right in. You're on it with all the replies the thread today...I'm replying opportunistically while sitting by a pool :D

kisamoto 5y ago
Lucky for some! We're not on AirMiners - will check it out tomorrow. Have to sign off shortly unfortunately but will check back tomorrow for replies. Enjoy that pool!
- tito 5y ago
  All good, cya soon!

thamer 5y ago

Great initiative! I offset my emissions with Wren (https://wren.co https://wren.co – I am not affiliated) and wonder how it compares to Carbon Removed. My current plan there is ~$23 to offset 200% of my emissions for a total of 1.3 tons of CO2/month (if that seems low: I have no car, no commute, live in a 1-bedroom apartment and rarely eat meat). The plans for Carbon Removed are at $15 for 100 kg, $42 for 300 kg, and $65 for 500 kg. Why such a difference? That's $0.13-0.15/kg for Carbon Removed and $0.018/kg at Wren. Where is the difference coming from?

kisamoto 5y ago
Thanks for your feedback and great news that you are already taking responsibility for your footprint. A key difference between us and Wren (and other offset based services) is that we focus on carbon removal - actively undoing a carbon footprint, rather than offsetting it. The way we see it this way: if we emit a ton of CO₂, we should remove a ton resulting in 0 emissions in the atmosphere. If we offset (by paying typically developing countries to change their behaviour), there is still a ton in the atmosphere. As a result, sequestering carbon dioxide is much harder and expensive. For example, removing via Direct Air Capture is currently around $1000/ton. Via bio-oil is close to $700/ton. At the other end of the scale offsets are typically $32/ton. I don't want to diminish the efforts of offsets - they have a place and help developing nations transition to more sustainable alternatives - but we want to focus on bringing carbon removal down the curve. To try and make this more affordable we also mix in calculated removals via forestation which is cheaper. Does that make things a little clearer?
- thamer 5y ago
  I get that carbon capture is very expensive and difficult, but surely planting trees does remove carbon from the atmosphere? That's where their biomass mostly comes from. On my Wren profile, it says "Your annual carbon emissions are equivalent to..." with a few equivalent amounts like "18793 miles driven in a car" or "The amount of CO2 349 pine trees absorb in a year". So isn't planting 349 pine trees in a year offsetting my emissions, literally removing the CO2 my lifestyle produced? (maybe once they're grown). If what you mean by offsets is more something like "pay to have N people switch to cleaner fuels instead of cooking with coal", then sure. But on Wren you can choose how to distribute the amount you pay; some can go to planting trees, some can go to cleaner fuels, or rainforest protection, etc. I looked up other similar services yesterday and found Terrapass (https://www.terrapass.com/ https://www.terrapass.com/ – also not affiliated) and their plan for 13,000 lbs/year costs $4.86/month or $58.32/5,897kg or ≈ 1c/kg. That said, it wasn't exactly clear from a quick look whether it was lowering emissions by this amount of removing the same amount. I do get your point though, and the distinction is definitely important. The name Carbon Removed certainly makes this goal clear. I wish other services clearly differentiated how much CO2 was actively removed per dollar spent. In any case, best of luck! I'm glad to see more of these initiatives and wish you success.