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Given that covid is entirely treatable in 99.9+% of cases (read the studies & physician anecdotes who have been treating it effectively since last March), it ma

Given that covid is entirely treatable in 99.9+% of cases (read the studies & physician anecdotes who have been treating it effectively since last March), it makes more sense to me to take the path of being proactive, healthy, and unvaccinated until it reaches Approved status. To each their own.

mullingitover 5y ago
This is a very naive take on the risks of infection. Just because you survive doesn't mean you're getting out unscathed[1], and it's also a pretty entitled take on access to health care. If everyone followed this advice we'd be looking at full ICUs and a lot of people asphyxiating in hospital hallways again. Concern trolling about the approval status is also just that. The risks are pretty well known at this point and approval is a forgone conclusion. If hundreds of millions of healthy vaccinated people aren't enough proof of safety for you, then final FDA approval won't be, either. [1] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0254523 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...
jdavis703 5y ago
It’s only easily treatable while there is spare health system capacity. When the system is overwhelmed they’re only going to treat a select amount of people who need treatment.
amackera 5y ago
It seems like the mortality rate is far higher than 0.1% according to the actual data (not anecdotes): https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality Obviously this data is only for confirmed cases, so there may be far more unreported cases in the wild, but your made up number of 99.9+% is still pretty clearly wrong. Also, given that you can be have covid, and be asymptomatic, there's actually no way to know if you are healthy (unless you're getting tested regularly). If you're infected, but asymptomatic, you're spreading the virus and you're part of the problem.
kstrauser 5y ago
There's no other way I can say this: you absolutely suck at risk analysis. The worst effects of COVID are much more common -- and much worse -- in the general population than the worst effects of any of the common vaccinations available in the US. Your opinion here contradicts all available scientific facts. Sorry, but you're just plain wrong.
hippari 5y ago
Once your hospitals are overwhelmed the deathrate went through the roof, you should catch up with recent news from India & South East Asea. https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-covid-death-rate-hit-record-june-after-calls-better-data-2021-07-06/ https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-covid-death-rate-...
maxerickson 5y ago
Literally nothing is going to change between now and when the mRNA vaccines get approved. Probably a month or two to go at this point.
cameldrv 5y ago
Given that 0.2% of the U.S. population has died of COVID, this argument seems a bit outdated.

mullingitover 5y ago

This is a very naive take on the risks of infection. Just because you survive doesn't mean you're getting out unscathed[1], and it's also a pretty entitled take on access to health care. If everyone followed this advice we'd be looking at full ICUs and a lot of people asphyxiating in hospital hallways again. Concern trolling about the approval status is also just that. The risks are pretty well known at this point and approval is a forgone conclusion. If hundreds of millions of healthy vaccinated people aren't enough proof of safety for you, then final FDA approval won't be, either. [1] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0254523 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...

jdavis703 5y ago

It’s only easily treatable while there is spare health system capacity. When the system is overwhelmed they’re only going to treat a select amount of people who need treatment.

amackera 5y ago

It seems like the mortality rate is far higher than 0.1% according to the actual data (not anecdotes): https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality Obviously this data is only for confirmed cases, so there may be far more unreported cases in the wild, but your made up number of 99.9+% is still pretty clearly wrong. Also, given that you can be have covid, and be asymptomatic, there's actually no way to know if you are healthy (unless you're getting tested regularly). If you're infected, but asymptomatic, you're spreading the virus and you're part of the problem.

kstrauser 5y ago

There's no other way I can say this: you absolutely suck at risk analysis. The worst effects of COVID are much more common -- and much worse -- in the general population than the worst effects of any of the common vaccinations available in the US. Your opinion here contradicts all available scientific facts. Sorry, but you're just plain wrong.

hippari 5y ago

Once your hospitals are overwhelmed the deathrate went through the roof, you should catch up with recent news from India & South East Asea. https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-covid-death-rate-hit-record-june-after-calls-better-data-2021-07-06/ https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-covid-death-rate-...

maxerickson 5y ago

Literally nothing is going to change between now and when the mRNA vaccines get approved. Probably a month or two to go at this point.

cameldrv 5y ago

Given that 0.2% of the U.S. population has died of COVID, this argument seems a bit outdated.